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10-26-2001, 06:35 PM | #16 | ||
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10-28-2001, 01:19 AM | #19 | |
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S4 can handle pretty well but I have to go with 330Ci cause it handles better. Quatto doesn't allow a lot of things to happen.
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10-29-2001, 09:32 PM | #20 | |
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the RS4 is a wagon though... so i don't think a single guy would want to drive a wagon but if you're married
Have you seen Tiff Needel review the RS4 on Top Gear?? He said that the M3 is a 100 times better, that you just can't have fun with the RS4 unless (then he whispers: don't tell audi) you use the hand brake. He said the main thing it's good for is unbelievable straight line acceleration
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10-30-2001, 01:20 PM | #21 | |
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What do you expect? It packs 380hp under it's hood.
RS4 can handle just it's not fun to throw around because of Quattro. |
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10-30-2001, 01:23 PM | #22 | |
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Wagon drives like car and have luggage space like SUV. If there was no station wagon the road would be full of mammoth SUV.
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10-30-2001, 05:21 PM | #23 | |
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BMW hands down
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If this were my only car to have, and from the sounds of it this will be for you, I would definately go with the BMW. Heres why: Performance: just as good as the Audi Transmission: all BMW trannys are heavenly, whether you pick steptronic or manual. Audis have sloppy manual trannys and the tiptronic is old and outdated. Trust me, ive driven it. BTW, the Sequential manual gearbox is so irresistable that they arent going to ever offer it in the 3 series. If you want it buy it for 2400 bucks on your M3 E46. (Mine is on order :-) ) Engine: BMWs inline 6 makes 225 hp cleanly and without the assistance of turbos, meaning a smoother powerband and much quieter ride. The S4 is much more of a "ricer." Also the BMW engine is excellent on both gas and oil consumption. I went 19,000 miles in my 330ci before the computer told me to change the oil for the first time. I also get about 28 MPG daily. Versatility: The BMW is a bigger car, and therefore has more room. If you only have one car this is something to consider. Style: Sorry, you cant get the Audi in a two door model, and arent coupes irresistable? Value: The Audi is cheaper for a reason. Compare the value of the two cars after two years and see. Also, BMW isnt just a spiffed up VW on the inside. If you like the Audi buy a Passat and save ten grand. Potential: You can really make a damn fast car out of a 330i with a few grand. go to www.bmw330ci.com and see what one guy did with some brembo brakes... I hope you make the right choice. I think its funny that you picked the S4 to be the main comparison for your BMW. When I bought my 330ci, the only other thing i looked at was the Saab Viggen. I know that this might seem silly, but in my mind its the only thing that can hold a candle to it. I didn't get the Saab for pretty much all of the reasons I stated above. Peace out! '01 BMW 330ci '96 Land Rover Defender 90 Sex appeal: BMW all the way. |
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10-30-2001, 08:09 PM | #24 | ||
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Just because it has 380hp doesn't mean it can't be fun?! :huh: i don't understand you ultimatedriver: We're talkin about an Audi S4, not just a regular Audi A4
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I am aware of that. The BMW still kicks its ass.
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10-30-2001, 09:46 PM | #26 | ||
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Re: BMW hands down
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Tranmission: S4 have long sloppy Manual. Their Tiptronic was far more reponsive than BMW's Steptronic. You can feel the gears much better in Audi. I find Steptronic awfully boring like Benz's. Engine: S4's V6 bi turbo makes a healthy 250hp. I am sorry but Turbo makes it just as smooth as 330Ci's inline 6. The bi turbo are twin small turbo application with instant response and no lag. The evidence is in it's max torque achieve at 1900rpm that stays flat all the way to almost redline. BMW's Double Vanos, Valvetronic etc makes the engine smooth but it's still a lot more peaky than S4's engine. Versatility: BMW is bigger car but not by much. Value: I don't know man you are paying more in the first place. If you depreciate faster than Audi than that's a big problem. Most european brand car's depreciate faster than japanese brand cars anyways. Potential: This should be a no brainer. What can you get for 500 bucks that will give you 60hp and 100lb torque? I bet you have to spend at least 4 grand to get the same result on 330's inline6. Careful with your money because S4's will reach 400hp at a much cheaper rate than your inline 6 will I gurantee you. The common rule is never compare potential with a Force Inducted car if your car is not. You will lose and lose badly unless you have one of those ultra strong engine block that was meant to be force inducted or plenty of displacement. It's why NSX get's blown away by Skyline and Supra that have simple mods. Last edited by F20C; 10-30-2001 at 10:40 PM. |
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10-30-2001, 10:33 PM | #28 | |
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I would go w/ the bimmer... Straight line spees goes to the s4, but I think the s4 handles like crap... It's worlds better than the a4, but in comparison, I was expecting a LOT more. Incidientally the IS300 outhandles both, it just needs more power
A good 30 HP or more.
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10-30-2001, 10:37 PM | #29 | ||
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10-30-2001, 10:49 PM | #30 | |
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yah, it's my first auto
The woman can't drive stick, so I bought w/ auto, and now she doesn't drive it so I'm cosidering trading for a manual.
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