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Old 02-17-2003, 06:38 PM   #16
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What if thats all we can afford . Us teenagers still in highschool can /want to only put so much money into our cars . I mean my car is only useful for a little bit more , then i gotta sell it cuz im going to college . Ya know? From what your saying your ragging on kids because they dont have enough money...come on man .
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Old 02-17-2003, 06:58 PM   #17
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no he's not. he's ragging on kids that buy a honda because everyone else bought a Honda. a used S13 240SX costs WAY less then the average used Civic, so if you have enough money for a Civic, then you have more then enough money for a 240SX, so don't even try to bring the money aspect into this. and besides, if you only had enough money to do certain mods, why not pool the money together that you would spend on crappy mods (wing, body kit, graphics, altezza's) and buy something useful that would actually do something for the performance of the car.
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Old 02-17-2003, 07:09 PM   #18
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As a civic owner . I did not buy a civic because it was "cool" i bought one because the other cars i wanted were no were to be found in my state . Ex , 240sx,dodge stealth,mustang . Cars where i live are pretty hard to find , to get a decent deal you got to drive 75 miles west .So a civic was the next best thing , reliability and a decent body shape .
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Old 02-17-2003, 07:21 PM   #19
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What if thats all we can afford . Us teenagers still in highschool can /want to only put so much money into our cars . I mean my car is only useful for a little bit more , then i gotta sell it cuz im going to college . Ya know? From what your saying your ragging on kids because they dont have enough money...come on man .
yeah I meant it like S13_Iketani said. they buy a honda because their friend bought a honda. believe it or not, my first car was actually a 91 civic dx sedan :o I hated the thing with a passion but it's all I could afford at the time. I didnt put any money into that and I just drove it to work everyday and then saved all my money from work so that I could one day get rid of the civic and get a better car. Oh yeah, and I'm still a teenager in high school as well
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Old 02-17-2003, 08:25 PM   #20
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i eat rice for lunch and dinner everyday!!! that is because i'm chinese, but oh wait wrong topic. anyways, i don't disrespect hondas. i like all cars. and you know what i hate worse then honda ricers? nissan ricers, there are plenty of those in nyc.
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Old 02-18-2003, 08:47 AM   #21
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you know what i hate worse then honda ricers? nissan ricers, there are plenty of those in nyc.
that is so tru, lately i 've also seen alot of nissian ricers in nyc n it pisses me off!!!

people like them is going to give nissian a bad name!!
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Old 02-18-2003, 10:35 AM   #22
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and you know what i hate worse then honda ricers? nissan ricers
You wanna know why they are worse? Cuz as Nissan owners...we expect better from our ppl. I dont hate all Honda's...just stupid ones...it takes alot for me to respect a FWD Honda...but I drove my mom's '03 CL Type S (6 spd manual) and it was alot of fun...260HP; LSD; 230TQ and 0-60 in 5.9 seconds

So I mean ya...sure you can make your lil DX fast by swapping motors and stripping out your interior and slapping turbo or NoS on your car...but anyway you slice it...you are still FWD and to me...it's no the true form of a sports car...

Sure there are nice handling FWD cars...namely the ITR...but it's quite sad when the ITR is probably the best handling car and it only has 195HP and really there is none higher

Honda has some other decent cars like the NSX and S2k...and they are RWD...I think that was a good move...

But think of all the sucky cars (dont say you cant swap motors into them too) Honda cars make...namely the new Si...bleech

Nissan...oh yea...we make the 240SX, Silvia, Sileighty, 180SX, 300ZX, 240Z, 260Z, Skyline GTR, Skyline GT-S, Bluebird (SR20DET; AWD) and Pulsar GTi-R (SR20DET; AWD)

Wow...
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Old 02-18-2003, 10:56 AM   #23
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THE JDM ITR PUTS OUT 210HP....SO IN ORDER TO BE A SPORTS CAR...A REAL SPORTS CAR YOU HAVE TO HAVE RWD SINCE WHEN HAS THAT BECOME A STANDARD
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Old 02-18-2003, 11:03 AM   #24
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MY 1ST CAR WAS A 93 NISSAN NX2000 WHICH WAS NAMED ONE OF THE BEST HANDLING CAR BY CAR AND DRIVER...WHICH CONSEQUENTLY IS FWD AND DESIGNED TO BE A SPORTS CAR...DOES THIS MEAN ITS NOT CONSIDERED A SPORTS CAR CAUSE IT'S NOT RWD
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you are still FWD and to me...it's no the true form of a sports car...



WHAT??!!?? Ok what do u call the new 350z? family sedan? That is not true what you're saying. Sport cars come in fwd,awd and rwd! Get it str8 man.
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FWD cars can be "sporty", but I wont consider them "sports cars".

1 - FWD is bad for acceleration. Under acceleration, weight is transferred to the rear, thereby lightening the weight on the front wheels and reducing traction.

2 - FWD is badly balanced. 60% or more of the cars weight is up front, which causes understeer.

Of course, I wouldnt call MY car a sports car because it has no grip and its slow. :toothless
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Old 02-18-2003, 12:49 PM   #27
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I KNOW WE'RE GOING O/T....BUT HERE'S A QUESTION....


SINCE YOU ALL SAY FWD CARS CAN'T BE CONSIDERED A SPORTS CAR.....THEN WHAT IS CONSIDERED A SPORTS CAR??.....WHAT MAKES A SPORTS CAR A SPORTS CAR??

I THINK IT'S JUST.....STUPID TO SAY A FWD ISN'T OR CAN'T BE A "SPORTS CAR".....
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Old 02-18-2003, 01:11 PM   #28
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In my opinion a sports car is defined by , looks , handling ,and one of good acceleration......whether it be fwd,or rwd. thats just my 2cents.
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Old 02-18-2003, 02:11 PM   #29
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WHAT MAKES A SPORTS CAR A SPORTS CAR??
ok, i might get flamed by my fellow nissan owners here...but my opinion of a "true" sports car is power, RWD, non-converatble and a 2-seater

example: mazda rx-7
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^^I agree, except for the 2 seater part

RWD, good weight balance, independent suspension, +.8gs on skidpad, and no more than 15 seconds in the 1/4
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