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Old 03-13-2003, 01:55 AM   #166
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oh and i hate non turbo silvyas why would any body want to have four banger without a turbo in a car as big as folden bomberdore........
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Old 03-13-2003, 06:43 AM   #167
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focus. Both are FWD, both are commuter cars, both are reliable
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WHoa !!! HAHAHAHAH .. Fuckus reliable ? There are more pages of recalls on the focus than I can shake a stick at.. ! ... sad but true ...
Recalls don't equate with reliability. Get this, one of the recalls was for a bad A-pillar trim clip! Another was for a Sony subwoofer defect! ALL the recalls were for the first 2 year models, with one being for the SVT Focus (that ONLY affected the first 500 cars, and was fixed before most of them had even been bought!). Recalls mean that the manufacturer found something that MIGHT be a problem and is fixing it. For free. In the old days, these problems might simply be engineered differently in the next revision of the car, and those with older versions had to either suffer or get a newer version. (or pay to update to the newer version, kind of like the chain tensioner and head stud upgrades in Porsche 911s). Many manufacturers simply refuse to admit their cars have problems and either fix them quietly if one comes in for regular service, or ignores it completely. Nissan and Honda are examples of the fpormer, while Mitsubishi and VW are examples of the latter.

I'd rather see a manufactuer that FIXES potential problems that have been identified, rather than ignore REAL poroblems that exist in actual customer cars!!!!

I'm really tired of this ignorant carping about recalls by people that simply have no clue!




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Yea.. pretty much ! especially the reliability part ....
Complete BS. If you believe that, I have some lovely waterfront property to sell you in Florida... I've bought a few new Fords. Completely reliable. In fact, they only saw the inside of a service bay on regularly scheduled maintenance intervals.



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.... ROFL ! 35k ? Is that a joke ? :apuke: ..... you need at least 150k before you can say anything about reliability... check the Consumer reviews, watch what you see on the side of the road.. talk to mechanics.. read the reviews... Ford is NOT know for being reliable or even close to it... ehhh
Actually, you're quite wrong there. Major indicatoors of quality and reliability show Ford being pretty high (higher than VW, Audi , Subaru, and on par with Toyota. You can look it up).

And MOST people judge reliability on the under 50k mark, as most people trade every three-4 years. After that, how you maintain and drive a car has more to do with it's reliability than manufacturer. But all cars can break, regardless of where they come from. If cars didn't break, then how come auto service is such a HUGE business? And why are there shops dedicated to imports and even specific brands? Please, open your eyes.



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I'm not gonna tell you Toyota, or Honda or whatever, is perfectly reliablie or whatever... but there is a difference... hopefully you never have trouble w/ your Stang.. but judging by the numbers... it could happen...
Judging by the fact that there are Honda and Toyota repair specialist shops in large numnbers, I'd say "judging by the numbers, it could happen" applies equally to YOU.



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.... As far as cars I hate:

- V6 Mustang / Camaro
- Most Fords, but not all
- Asstek
- VW BUG
- n/a Eclipse
- n/a Supra
- n/a anything that was offered Turbo'd
- Riced Econo Cars....

Thats all I can think of now...


I am probably an asshole..... heh
Sometimes I wonder why being a closed minded asshole is such a desireable goal for some of you.
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Old 03-20-2003, 09:12 AM   #168
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i just cant stand any import (minus those Ferraris and Lambos) or any car with a damn fart can on them!!!! god i hate them. they sound like shit and look worse!!!!
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Old 03-22-2003, 10:41 PM   #169
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i just cant stand any import (minus those Ferraris and Lambos) or any car with a damn fart can on them!!!! god i hate them. they sound like shit and look worse!!!!
What a crock of shit- so you hate any car not from the United States, Ferrar or Lamborghini???? Why???
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Old 03-23-2003, 04:47 AM   #170
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i just cant stand any import (minus those Ferraris and Lambos) or any car with a damn fart can on them!!!! god i hate them. they sound like shit and look worse!!!!
You're kind of a dumbass, aren't you? I guess you don't like reliability.
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Old 03-25-2003, 06:37 PM   #171
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this is such a lame thread.
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Old 03-26-2003, 11:41 AM   #172
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You're kind of a dumbass, aren't you? I guess you don't like reliability.
first off, i believe in my american cars. besides, when it comes to all out muscle, america ownes you foo! and as far as a dumbass, im not one. first off, who here really knows the origonal color of the Viper? how about the Corvette? ad as far as reliability, america has economy cars too. it's just most of us are smart enough not to put an annoying exaust systems on a car our mom's used to drive us to school in and call it performance.
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Old 03-26-2003, 11:59 AM   #173
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first off, i believe in my american cars. besides, when it comes to all out muscle, america ownes you foo! and as far as a dumbass, im not one. first off, who here really knows the origonal color of the Viper? how about the Corvette? ad as far as reliability, america has economy cars too. it's just most of us are smart enough not to put an annoying exaust systems on a car our mom's used to drive us to school in and call it performance.
The original Viper color was red. And the original Corvette color was white, I believe. As far as muscle, I think that Japan ,while it does have virtually no high output V-8's, has some badass 6 cylinders(Supra, Skyline GTR,etc). I love domestics. I have nothing against them, but I hev found that imports are generally cheaper and more reliable for a price.
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ok. you know your stuff. just wanted to test that. and i dont dispise imports. i dont like them because they rival ours after all these aftermarket tune-ups and shit. id rather buy from K&N and Borla. both for intake and exaust. and i agree about the badass 6 cylinders. but i hope you see my point about highoutput V-8s. america is king at those.
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Old 03-26-2003, 12:32 PM   #175
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ok. you know your stuff. just wanted to test that. and i dont dispise imports. i dont like them because they rival ours after all these aftermarket tune-ups and shit. id rather buy from K&N and Borla. both for intake and exaust. and i agree about the badass 6 cylinders. but i hope you see my point about highoutput V-8s. america is king at those.
Agreed. Nothing like a 427 wide open throttle with Edelbrock headers and carb.
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Old 03-28-2003, 12:29 PM   #176
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hell ya! not to mention that new 572 big block V-8 Chevy just came out with. its a crate engine though. little harder to build! after i find a car that can hold one, im buyin it!!!! cant wait. the real bad part, they cost about 7K.
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hey i like cars all cars dosent matter if its fast and not a pos its cool in my book but donk get me wrong i were my chevy bow tie proud the blue oval guys should hang there head to low either america has been putting out cars since the late 60s that still dominate at the track that has to speak for its self every one talk about is ill turbo my import and it will beat u but what happend if i put a turbo on my ride who will win then

i was watching speed vision guy got a 2001 vett i belive (not a Zo6) and dropped a twin turbo in it and that car was f ing fast

if u want 1/4 mile racing u go old school and u wont have a lot to fear

around a track even though the viper and zo6 are strong there just not up to meclerian f1 standards or alot of other imports

all about 575 zz big block crate drop a super charger on that put it in a 72 vega powerful auto trany bad ass rear end o yea a wheely bar and go out to the track and eat those turbo suns of bitchs up all day long

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hey i like cars all cars dosent matter if its fast and not a pos its cool in my book but donk get me wrong i were my chevy bow tie proud the blue oval guys should hang there head to low either america has been putting out cars since the late 60s that still dominate at the track that has to speak for its self every one talk about is ill turbo my import and it will beat u but what happend if i put a turbo on my ride who will win then

i was watching speed vision guy got a 2001 vett i belive (not a Zo6) and dropped a twin turbo in it and that car was f ing fast

if u want 1/4 mile racing u go old school and u wont have a lot to fear

around a track even though the viper and zo6 are strong there just not up to meclerian f1 standards or alot of other imports

all about 575 zz big block crate drop a super charger on that put it in a 72 vega powerful auto trany bad ass rear end o yea a wheely bar and go out to the track and eat those turbo suns of bitchs up all day long

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That didn't make a lick of sense- and you seem the typical "Domestic" owner who thinks "Imports" are all the same cars- wrong- "Imports" vary greatly- there are billions of different types............
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I hate it when every post has an exaggeration. :finger:
The dumber part is that no one can define "import" any more, as half the "domestics" are manufactured in Canada and Mexico, whereas a lot of Honda, Nissan, and Toyota's stuff is designed and manufactured HERE.
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