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[Jimster]

Then it's obviiously going to be different, but a V8 with tons of weight over the front axle is going to become a pain fast, it's all in how the weight is mounted, like I said.

[Z_Fanatic]

Originally Posted by 91300zxtt

naw man, i dont mean every single car does im sayin this. most cars in the v8 area are not good at handling. they have mucho torque and power, but are so damn heavy. they are the dominators of the 1/4, while it tends to be the lighter cars that are running the tracks

i know what you meant dude. but you're probably pissing off a lot of musclehead, i mean er, muscle fans out there. that's what i meant.

[Auto_newb]

anyone care to answer my question?

[Z_Fanatic]

look above, Jimster already did.

[Auto_newb]

Originally Posted by jimster

Then it's obviiously going to be different, but a V8 with tons of weight over the front axle is going to become a pain fast, it's all in how the weight is mounted, like I said.

Ok so, are you saying if I had an MR V8, I can go to my local track and blow the doors off the other cars and leaving them in the dust with no problem?

[Z_Fanatic]

what do you think a Ferrari 360 is?

[Auto_newb]

I thought those were V10s or v12s

[Z_Fanatic]

you should go look at their website, they're making V8s for all 360 models currently, and all else V12.

[Auto_newb]

I see

[Z_Fanatic]

now you know...

[Auto_newb]

But what if it was a V6 instead? It isn't THAT hard to make an MR car is it? I don't see much cars with that engine drivetrain layout

[Z_Fanatic]

because it's a hassle to work on MR cars, it's cramping a lot of stuff in a small area compared to front engine cars. so the labor costs are higher. the setup isn't so convenient. having your engine behind also makes it a noise issue. if you have a nasty fender bender from the back (which is more likely than front), either the weight of the engine pushes forward which could be a danger to the driver or the engine drops (may be that's what Ferrari cars do). Either way, the car is totalled.

If Ferrari was a V6, it might not be fast as it is. What makes it fast is the MR layout, mid 2000 lbs+ carbon fiber body, and raw 400+ horses to churn your stomach. And the top-notch handling to match it all. Without control, what's the point of power?

[Auto_newb]

Hmm Ok one more question, if it's so hard to cramp an engine in there, why not make it a 3 cylinder or 4 cylinder, they're small and light.

[Z_Fanatic]

Why would Ferrari sell I3 or I4s? Who's gonna buy it? And I think 360's stock V8 engines are pretty light, considering the total weight of the car.

As for having regular MR layout, well look at MR2 and MR spyder, all 4 bangers. While the spyder sucks, the MR2 is actually appreciating in value. It has a I4 turbocharged engine that delivers 200HP (non-turbo does about 130) at the weight of 2660 pounds. Not bad for sporty car. And though it has tenedency to oversteer/understreets while making sharp u turns, it handles great otherwise.

Plus MR cars are not so easy to work with. Think about the convenience of front engines and all the access to the parts. While in mid-rear engine, you also have a whole bulk of empty space big as trunk in the rear for tailights. So you're stuck working with small squarish compartment in the middle, between the seats and rear pseudo-trunk. So generally that means trunk is in the front, and its space is so small, it's designed to only hold emergency tire. In this case, it's not how small the engine, but the location makes it tight and cramped.

I think it's also an issue with what's popular, what's norm, what's convenient. Remember the old Beetle of the 60s and back? Well they had the engine in the back, but now, New Beetle has it in the front to align with FWD. To match with times I suppose.

[lucki17]

hey! this isnt a domestic vs. import or big block vs. small block, its about chick cars (cars that look good but have no balls).