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Old 08-25-2003, 12:27 PM   #31
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Re: Re: carrrnuttt vs. 90redgt

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again... i'd like to know how you made up the 2 second gap.


filter and exhaust isn't going to do much for your car in general, it'll help but its not going to give you the boost in power for the mid 15's like you estimate.

Stock Quad Cam V6 made like 190hp. And the '93 Z24 coupe only could pull in a 18 second 1/4. Filter and exhaust probably only gave you maybe 10hp at max.

See where i'm going with this?
Don't mean to correct you Matt, but his V6 was rated at 140HP. The QUAD4 motor is the one that's rated at about 180-190HP. Meaning: his car was still slower than my Beretta that DID run mid-15's.
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Don't mean to correct you Matt, but his V6 was rated at 140HP. The QUAD4 motor is the one that's rated at about 180-190HP. Meaning: his car was still slower than my Beretta that DID run mid-15's.

My bad.
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Uh... is that statement leading to any valid point?
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Old 08-27-2003, 02:03 PM   #35
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Do you have a SR20DE

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Why yes, yes it would.

So then why do you want to swap in a SR20DET when you could just add a turbo to your motor?
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So then why do you want to swap in a SR20DET when you could just add a turbo to your motor?
Although the crank/rods are the same as an already-turbo'ed SR20DET, and it can and WILL hold good boost and power, there are just too many things that are different.

Parts are interchangeable, but just buying the parts and replacing the stock parts will cost more than just outright buying a used motor, at least for me, since I have access to the best FWD SR20DET, the GTi-R version, for cheaper than most.

Here are the differences between the DET and the DE:

The DET has oil squirter piston coolers
The DET has a bigger oil pump.
The DET has a different front pulley.
The DET has lower compression pistons (8.3:1 vs 9.5:1).
The DET has bigger injectors.
The DET has direct ignition.
The DET has a variable intake cam, runs retarded at idle, advanced mid range and retarded top end.
The DET has mechanical shim in bucket type lifters with a slightly bigger in duration exhaust cam.

The GTi-R version has these advantages over the SR20DE and lesser SR20DET's

The GTi-R DET has individual Throttle body injection.
The GTi-R DET has stronger main cap bolts.
The GTi-R DET has beefier rods.

The GTi-R DET also comes with a t28 turbo stock, with bigger IC, compared to a smaller IC and t25 for lesser DET's.

For good reliable power, the stock SR20DE is recommended up to 250WHP before you'd have to beef it up a bit, but they recommend you keep the stock rods, which are already strong, if not stronger than some aftermarket rods. That is until you get to the levels below:
  • up to 400whp for a BB DET
  • up to 500whp for a GTi-R DET
BTW, I might be getting a turbo on my stock motor before I can get my SR20DET. My friend's shop is considering getting into making turbo kits, that he puts together himself, using refurbished JDM turbos (cheaper). He said that he might want to use my car as a mule to practice his manifold-fabrication skills. So, if he does, I get a free turbo-kit and install.
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Ok I see Would the SR20DET fit in a 240Z or 280Z
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Ok I see Would the SR20DET fit in a 240Z or 280Z
Well, anything can fit into anything, given enough money.

You'll need the RWD Silvia SR20DET's for the Datsun's RWD application. You might even be able to fit a an RB (Skyline) motor in there, considering they can be made to fit in the 240SXs.

The 240SX forum guys should be able to help you better.
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this just doesnt add up. I run high 13s at 99 how can you pull a 15 flat at 99. the mustang MUST have been an auto and MUST have been a POS. Sure it looks nice but to lose to you, a POS. 15 flat sounds about right for the mustang but the nissan maybe 17.50s in good weather . With only bumped timing and an air filter, come on be for real.
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Do some research before you open your mouth. Do you know anything about his car, hell you even have a car?
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Re: carrrnuttt vs. 90redgt

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this just doesnt add up. I run high 13s at 99 how can you pull a 15 flat at 99. the mustang MUST have been an auto and MUST have been a POS. Sure it looks nice but to lose to you, a POS. 15 flat sounds about right for the mustang but the nissan maybe 17.50s in good weather . With only bumped timing and an air filter, come on be for real.
Two questions: How many Classic Sentra SE-Rs have you driven? How many have you actually seen run?

Keep in mind, just because you've seen a random Sentra driven by your local "mobility enhanced domicile"-resident living in Tennessee and all, put-putting along, doesn't mean anything.
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Re: carrrnuttt vs. 90redgt

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this just doesnt add up. I run high 13s at 99 how can you pull a 15 flat at 99. the mustang MUST have been an auto and MUST have been a POS. Sure it looks nice but to lose to you, a POS. 15 flat sounds about right for the mustang but the nissan maybe 17.50s in good weather . With only bumped timing and an air filter, come on be for real.

'92 Sentra SE-R's run low 15's stock.

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Re: carrrnuttt vs. 90redgt

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this just doesnt add up. I run high 13s at 99 how can you pull a 15 flat at 99. the mustang MUST have been an auto and MUST have been a POS. Sure it looks nice but to lose to you, a POS. 15 flat sounds about right for the mustang but the nissan maybe 17.50s in good weather . With only bumped timing and an air filter, come on be for real.
OMG, what a jackass!!! The ignorance of some people!
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Re: carrrnuttt vs. 90redgt

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this just doesnt add up. I run high 13s at 99 how can you pull a 15 flat at 99. the mustang MUST have been an auto and MUST have been a POS. Sure it looks nice but to lose to you, a POS. 15 flat sounds about right for the mustang but the nissan maybe 17.50s in good weather . With only bumped timing and an air filter, come on be for real.

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