Lets slay some ricers!

[Jared_80]

I think that the test driver for car and driver does not know what he is doing. The Camaro does much better than 13.8 in the 1/4 in the right hands, and the Lancer does MUCH better than 14.4. and that 5.4 0-60 that is nonsence how come the Motor Trend guy did it over a second faster? a third of a second difference I can understant, different grades of pavement could make that difference, but 1.1 seconds! That is just an stupid driver. (or maby he just weighs 500lbs) They aparently dont know how to powershift. Well I guess that I cannot expect too much from them, they are more of a luxury car magazine insted of a proformance magazine.

[BlkCamaroSS]

Would be interesting to know when and where they did their testing. That'll make a huge difference.

[Jared_80]

Great news guys the Evo RS is coming to America! The American Version is said to be about 200lbs lighter, and with front LSD. Just imagin what kind of launch that will have. It is said to cost about 2k less than the normal Evo. It gets even better, they are planing on releasing a 330hp version. SWEET. The stock Evo is a BAD car already just imagin how fast the new versions are going to be. Lets see how the new GTO Judge stacks up. (if they really build it)

[BlkCamaroSS]

I bet it'll run 10's...

[RedLightning]

the lancer was estimated performance they did not do real testing for it. they tested it twice, this one was from thier first meeting with it on a track in Japan.(C/D-estimated performance:
Zero to 60 mph: 5.4 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 14.4 sec
Standing 1/4-mile: 14.2 sec @ 98 mph) not given time to do testing i believe.

(What's new? Nothing. Familiar shape, familiar concept -- potent V-8 up front, live axle at the rear -- and after 35 years, it should be familiar.

Like the Mustang, the Camaro is the antithesis of the kind of finesse represented by the Eclipse, except more so. There's nothing subtle here: Stab the throttle and hang on. Our Z28 was far and away the fleetest of these fair-weather specialists, hitting 60 mph in a brisk 5.2 seconds and 100 mph in 12.3, and covering the quarter-mile in 13.8 seconds at 104 mph. Top speed was 158 mph.)

I dont think they did real testing for this eather. It was a compraro with other cars, i think c/d deletes their info on discontinued cars,cause this is all i can find in their website about it, they probibly did real testing just deleted it when chevy stoped making them.

[Purpura Delujo]

Not anotehr one of these stupid Japanese versus American car arguments. Why cant the mod get in here and close this stupid thread.
You like a fucking evo? Go to the evo forums, not bitch and whine about one in here, yes. The F bodys ended last year, muscle cars didn't die in 1975, if they did everyone in the whole world would be driving a piece of shit hybrid car, with no HP. Musclecars are really dead now are they? Try saying that to the millions of die hard musclecar fans out there that still restore cars that are 40 years old, so that future generations of kids can appreciate the cars that started the big horsepower crazes today.

'WHO LOOKS STUPID NOW?!?!' - You.

[-Josh-]

Originally Posted by Um...Nameless Dork

dudes with mods both cars are gunna whoop @$$ they already do.

I agree whole heartedly...i like imports, i respect my friends heavily moded Integra GSR. I dont like jack ass deuche bags like Jared_80 though who pull numbers out of their ass and make shit up instead of admitting that they are wrong. And even if it does turn out to be faster the Camaro SS will be running circles around it while it's broken down on the side of the road, waiting to go to a shop to have it's transmission fixed(temporarily)

[PWMAN]

Originally Posted by Jared_80

I am no muscle car fanatic but I think that the muscle cars died after 1975, I think that that was the year they started enforcing the emmisions laws. Just look at how much power droped between 1972 and 1975. It reached it's low in 1982 (from what I have heard) the 1982 Mustang GT made only 128hp on the dyno.

I had a 77' Chrysler Newport. It's not considered a muscle car by most, but I did. It has layed the smackdown on many a ricer. The 440 in it was only rated at 195 HP, and weighed in at over 4K pounds-but it could stomp a 170+ mods HP integra weighing 2800 pounds. I believe all the cars in the ''smog'' era were just severely underrated. My dad said he had a 78 King Cobra, with the 302 rated at 139 HP and he raced a 71' Mustang with a 351 Cleveland 4 BBL (not the BOSS, 330 HP one) which was rated at like 280 HP I think, and beat him. The guy stopped him 1/2 mile later just to ask him what mods he had done to the car that he was so fast and when my dad said it was all stock he thought my dad was joking. But he wasn't.


On a different topic, who is this ''Jared 80'' that thinks the EVO will ''smoke any SS ever made''???
Why doesn't he try racing a 69' SS 427? LOL, dumbass.

[YogsVR4]

Sorry I am coming to the conversation a bit late, but I just read mention of a 69' SS 427

That is one of the sweetest looking cars ever made - bar none.













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[Purpura Delujo]

Originally Posted by YogsVR4

Sorry I am coming to the conversation a bit late, but I just read mention of a 69' SS 427

That is one of the sweetest looking cars ever made - bar none.

HAHAHAHAHAHAH, W3rd!

[PWMAN]

Originally Posted by YogsVR4

Sorry I am coming to the conversation a bit late, but I just read mention of a 69' SS 427

That is one of the sweetest looking cars ever made - bar none.

BTW, an EVO will not beat an 02' SS in the 1/4 anyway-let alone the 69' SS427. Any big block Camaro in the 60's will make quick work of an EVO.

[rav440]

Originally Posted by PWMAN

BTW, an EVO will not beat an 02' SS in the 1/4 anyway-let alone the 69' SS427. Any big block Camaro in the 60's will make quick work of an EVO.

um ,,,,,,, ive been away from chevys for awhile now , but as far as i can remember there was never a SS 427 car made . unless your talking about the C.O.P.O. or YENKO , NICKEY or the one from the west coast . and the BALDWIN MOTION PERFORMANCE cars .

[PWMAN]

Originally Posted by rav440

um ,,,,,,, ive been away from chevys for awhile now , but as far as i can remember there was never a SS 427 car made . unless your talking about the C.O.P.O. or YENKO , NICKEY or the one from the west coast . and the BALDWIN MOTION PERFORMANCE cars .

I was pretty sure there was, but even if there wasn't an SS 396 would still destroy a EVO for sure.

[BlkCamaroSS]

There were 427's in all of the cars mentioned above...

[rav440]

Originally Posted by BlkCamaroSS

There were 427's in all of the cars mentioned above...

in what cars ? the dealers that i mentioned ? as far as i know the only chevy that was avilible with a 427 from the FACTORY was the VETTE . all others were C.O.P.O. cars or special dealler installs .

quote: " SS 396 would still destroy a EVO for sure " your right on that PWMAN .