Alclad II vs. Kosutte Gin San...bye, bye Alclad! - Page 7

racer93 · 09-17-2010, 05:22 PM

I found that it's just a tick better than the old SNJ powders (now Hawkeye Hobbies). The SNJs were just more finicky. KSG is very easy. I used it to great effect with late 70s/early 80s F1 chassis...

potatochief · 09-20-2010, 01:47 AM

just got myself some of this as well... excited to use em on some old bumpers! thanks!

racer93 · 09-20-2010, 11:08 AM

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just got myself some of this as well... excited to use em on some old bumpers! thanks!

You'll be stunned, as long as the black enamel base is smooth. It's rediculously shiny and awesome.

tvuorinen · 09-28-2010, 03:04 AM

A friend of mine who imports modelkits and accessories and sells them have amazing skill to make Mr. Takajuku Oichi from HLJ to get him what he needs, no matter if its available or not, last weekend he got 8 packets of kosutte gin san and gave one to me

viperofoz · 10-08-2010, 04:50 AM

I received my Gin-San a few days ago and had a quick try....I'll go into more detail later but here are a few pics to show for now.

Regards, Dan

racer93 · 10-08-2010, 08:20 AM

Sweet! Kinda F1-esque for the street! Nice!

scale auto style · 10-20-2010, 10:17 AM

for tose of you want it ... back in stock right here

Heres the link http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10011510

hope this helps

yours

BVC500 · 10-20-2010, 11:06 AM

Does it still work effectively if you polish the black enamel undercoat to remove any orange peel before applying it?

JimboCO · 10-20-2010, 11:45 AM

It appears you guys are getting a nice, "bright" chrome finish using this material. I tried over a VERY smooth base of Tamiya TS Black and the effect was more of an Alclad polished aluminum or a dark, black, chrome. Any ideas on what might be preventing this from polishing to a more bright chrome finish? The effect is quite nice, just not as "chrome" as I was hoping.

BVC500 · 10-20-2010, 12:12 PM

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It appears you guys are getting a nice, "bright" chrome finish using this material. I tried over a VERY smooth base of Tamiya TS Black and the effect was more of an Alclad polished aluminum or a dark, black, chrome. Any ideas on what might be preventing this from polishing to a more bright chrome finish? The effect is quite nice, just not as "chrome" as I was hoping.

ditto!

star21 · 10-20-2010, 12:50 PM

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Kinda looks like a car straight from Dubai!

I think it'd be a neat idea if you added some Mclaren Rocket Red graphics.

racer93 · 10-20-2010, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by JimboCO

It appears you guys are getting a nice, "bright" chrome finish using this material. I tried over a VERY smooth base of Tamiya TS Black and the effect was more of an Alclad polished aluminum or a dark, black, chrome. Any ideas on what might be preventing this from polishing to a more bright chrome finish? The effect is quite nice, just not as "chrome" as I was hoping.

Use more KSG and use enamel paint. It seems that once it's on in a light coat, it won't deepen. So, you need to do a bunch the first time. TS is lacquer and not as effective for KSG (or alclad) for some reason.

Chrome is kinda dark as it is in nature (due to reflection). I've seen the same thing on '70s F1 chassis. It can be dark (dependent on the background) or very bright in the sun.

Didymus · 10-20-2010, 07:09 PM

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It seems that once it's on in a light coat, it won't deepen. So, you need to do a bunch the first time.

Do you mean you have to put it on thick?

I've found that unpolished Alclad black undercoat is shinier than just about any other black, even polished Tamiya lacquer. Alclad and Spaz Stix stick much better to the Alclad undercoat.

racer93 · 10-20-2010, 07:48 PM

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Do you mean you have to put it on thick?

I've found that unpolished Alclad black undercoat is shinier than just about any other black, even polished Tamiya lacquer. Alclad and Spaz Stix stick much better to the Alclad undercoat.

Put the KSG on thick. Alclad undercoat I'm almost certain is an enamel, as that's what Alclad recommends. KSG recommends the same thing. They do "stick" much better to the paint, as it's much softer than lacquers.

Didymus · 10-20-2010, 07:58 PM

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Alclad undercoat I'm almost certain is an enamel, as that's what Alclad recommends.

Yes, I'm pretty sure it's an enamel, even though the label on the bottle says "lacquer." It acts and smells like enamel.

Sometimes I use it when I want a really glossy, piano black finish. It you're using it as a finish, it takes several days to dry. But for undercoat, one day is plenty.

I'll use it under the KSG when it gets here from Japan.

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