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12-12-2003, 09:32 PM | #1 | ||
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12-12-2003, 10:06 PM | #2 | ||
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12-13-2003, 08:58 AM | #3 | ||
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if we are better simple because we have been building cars longer then how come the most sold car in the world is a japanese car. and the 3 cars in the world with the most miles on paper are an accord and a 1970 something volvo? |
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Although I have never owned a foreign car, I would definitely consider buying a foreign car for the gas mileage. As far as overall quality, I believe you will find a lemon among all makes and models. You hear about them more than you do about vehicles with no problems.
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12-14-2003, 09:30 AM | #8 | ||
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true..... (to each his own) i would rather buy a toyota corrolla over lets just say a pontiac grand prix gt. better gas milage, more reliable and a much cheaper car. |
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It is not more dependable, proof is all I ask. you can fool some of the people some of the time, but can you fool all of the people all of the time. 1) let me ask, is cheaper always better. 2) would you rather see your mom driving a little beer can, or a car like a Cadillac with a little substance. Does it make you feel better to know the mom has a sixteenth of sheet metal between her and the road, or a big frame and a lot more metal. 3) Is cheaper really better. 4)I'll give you the gas milage. 5)The Grand Prix will out last you Toyota. 6) I have owned a Toyota. 7)If cheaper is always better, sould they always use the cheapest parts possible to build their cars. 8) Other then manufacturing cost being cheaper in Japan, how do you think they get these thing built for so much less. 9) After being in the body shop business I do know this, the japanese use sub standard metal in comparisan to us. 10) It just makes good sence to keep the money in our country. |
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12-15-2003, 04:51 AM | #10 | ||
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1. sheetmetal is never what it is protecting you. even in the older days when steel is what the body was that was completely smash in an accident over 40. a 1/16 of an inch sheet metal why not when there is a steel beam running through the door. (not refering to a corolla refering to my grad am.) i've also been around toyotas and they have lasted til round 180,000 miles and the let go was not cost of repair. just wanted a newer car. 2. they are using the cheaper parts possible to build a car. have you seen the inter. of a 2002 sunfire. 3. keep the money in our country, im not exactly sure who builds the grand prix but my grand am is build in mexico!! |
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12-15-2003, 04:54 AM | #11 | ||
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im not in a postion to afford a grand prix let alone a cadillac. i barely afford to keep my grand am which cost more then a corolla. my biggest point is i like the idea of a car like corolla and sentra that can be had for less then $16,000 and can still last upwards of 150,000 miles. |
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12-22-2003, 02:36 AM | #12 | ||
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The most sold car in the world is the venerable VW bug. They stopped production on them in 2002, after producing more than 50,000,000. What is the mileage on this accord, and why do you say 3 cars but only name 2?
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12-26-2003, 05:13 PM | #13 | |
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I guess I would drive a jap car someday, but it'd be a 240Z with a 383 stroker.
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First, I'd like to bring to everyone's attention the simple fact that the first automobile was Karl Benz's tri-cart built in 1886. Also mentionable as pre-dating the American auto industry are Renault, De Dion Bouton, and Austro-Daimler. The claim that Americans have been building cars "the longest" is bunk.
Second, the most dangerous cars in an accident ARE stiffly built full frame automobiles such as the aforementioned Cadillac. These cars don't crumple in an incident, and thus dissipate the forward energy of an incident. Deformable structure, as pioneered by Mercedes-Benz, is the safest method of construction. It's only prehistoric idiosyncracies like the Chevrolet Avalanche that provide the danger to "small cars". Thanks to the EPA loopholes, these monstrosities are allowed to be built into rolling hazards for anyone who buys a sensible car (domestic or import). I have learned through a great deal of research, apparently much more than you, that nationality has absolutely nothing with the quality of an automobile. As I've discovered, a car can only be truly judged on its own. Toyota can build a rattletrap (Echo) and Chevrolet can build a solid family car (Malibu). And vice versa (Camry & Vega).
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There is not best or better, just different, the diversity of car makes, models, styles, options, and prices is what truly makes the automotive world great. We don't have to be a bunch of clones, everyone can be an individual, drive what he/she likes and be proud of it. Would it not be boring to have to conform and have no choice or preference. Respect the automobile for what it is, an individual expression. You don't have to agree with someone else's preference, but do respect their individuality.
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