racing with a automatic?

[Kven]

technically top fuel dragsters dont have a transmission at all, its just a clutch(centrifugal) and a rear differential. the reason is they have so much torque they dont need gears; which is the main purpose of the tranission, to multiple torque to help the car get going.

[luvinimports]

Actually a number of BMW's semi-autos the M3's and the M3 CSL and im not sure but i belive the new V-10 M5 will as well, ferrari's F1 system is actually faster thats why the new 575's and Enzo only come in that form also the 612 (does come in manual) use the F1 technolgy, and in a motortred issue i have testing the Lamborghini Murchelago said it needed a Squ. Trans. because car makers like that tune the automatics for a racing purpose and is techniquly perfected because its a computer program, a computer always downshifts perfects up shifts perfect so on and so fourth

[joeblowme]

Get yourself a manual car dummy! don't waste your time with that automatic car.

[GritMaster]

Originally Posted by bjdm151

Not that any body is going to read this because this thread has gone on too long and started off with bad information, but yea you can make an auto go faster than a manual down a straight line, do you see top fuel dragsters with a clutch pedal???????and i've never heard of an automatic (except that worn out POS you're still driving) miss a shift. but when turning left right whatever (road course) you don't have the control over rpm range (putting it where the power is) try holding your auto at 6k in first gear through a corner, ain't gonna happen, the mechanics of an automatic transmission will take over and shift for you.

Does the WRC count as a road course with curves etc? they use auto trannys with a manual override.

(sorry for the 10 day after reply :P)

[bjdm151]

Yea the WRC is considered a road course. I'm not sure if they are actualy using automatics or sequential manuals,But if they are automatic transmisions they still have control over gear selection.

[Kven]

they use manual transmissions. they are paddle-shift(behind steering wheel) transmissions so you dont see them reaching down for a gear lever.

[luvinimports]

some WRC cars such as the WRX use the behind the sterring wheel paddel change in a squ. manual transmission

the 206's use a squ manual transmission with a bumpstick

and i forget what car i saw that was useing just a stright up automatic transmission

i think as far as rally is concerened itd be the only type of driving where i'd perfer a squ. or automatic transmission.......... as well if i was f1 racing : )

[MIKE!]

i have an auto, and i all out SMOKED an 02 civic with AEM cold air intake. thats a standard.. and all ive done to my car is a cold air intake..(ebay style) and he didnt miss a shift either

i dunno... maybe i was lucky


is nutral popin an auto bad for the tranny?

[luvinimports]

for some reason i dont see that happenin
never driven an 02 but i just find that hard to belive

[MIKE!]

yea it was really hard for me to believe too. I drove his 02 civic... and it really doesnt have much torque...at all!... it gets pretty good high end responce but thats from the AEM and the MAGNAFLOW system hes got on it. but all i needed to beat him was to get off the line quicker.. and that i did.

02 civics are really nice tho...

[luvinimports]

*shurgs* who knows, good kill

can this guy drive? because a good driver can make up for the tourqe loss off the line if they know what there doing

[nubtuner]

hey, from what i've read here tuned autos are better for drags, and manny's for road tracks.

But what about the shift-matics(pretty sure that's what they're called)?
Such as ones in the acura tl
Are these any different at all from regular auto's, or do they just have a fancy name and no difference in functionality?
Would these types of setups offer a sort of middle ground between the two?

[drdisque]

ya, they're just regular automatics with an electronic override. You actually run slower in the 1/4 mile if you try to shift them yourself.

[MIKE!]

yea, i heard the same thing about the shift o matic or w/e


but seriously ... is neutral droppin(rev in neutral, then drop it into drive for a lil tire smokin action) bad for the tranny? like really bad?

[thecackster]

ya the 3g mitsubishi eclipses have a (sports-tronic) shifter in them, i think thats what it is called, i think that drop down and shift thing screws your tranny bad, i used to do that in my 93' T-bird and it is so shitty now, not sure if thats why but i did it and now it's crap