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Old 10-15-2004, 10:46 AM   #136
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And yes, the Windshield is problematic on the passenger upper side ! Damn.
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Old 10-15-2004, 10:56 AM   #137
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I had the same problem on boat of my 350Z.. I hate that
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Old 10-15-2004, 03:52 PM   #138
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Re: Tamiya or Aztek Airbrush's

I have only sprayed acrylics and metalizer. It is only the acrylics(tamiya) are the ones that I get that fine orange peel on. The metalizer came out gorgeous though. Perhaps laquers are more self leveling? I have taken tamiya laquer out of the can and will hopefully try it out something next week.

Like Vric said, compound will take out the OP. But I really do not want to be componding every little thing I spray!
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I have only sprayed acrylics and metalizer. It is only the acrylics(tamiya) are the ones that I get that fine orange peel on. The metalizer came out gorgeous though. Perhaps laquers are more self leveling? I have taken tamiya laquer out of the can and will hopefully try it out something next week.

Like Vric said, compound will take out the OP. But I really do not want to be componding every little thing I spray!
Awesome! You problably wont have to thin it since it already comes from can. Or not? I will try to start experimenting with acrylics next week. I have been shooting some createx water based paints through the airbrush thus far. Unfortunately i got sick again (New Jersey weather sucks!) so no airbrush for today, maybe tomorrow, and most likely sunday I still haven't found the smaller color cups for my airbrush around here, this leaves me with no other option other than going to Chinatown NYC where i bought the airbrush which is a really large store but its quite a hassle to get there since its in NYC!(NYC traffice is the worst!) Oh and i see what you guys mean about these 2oz bottles. I have wasted soo much paint that its not even funny! Its soo hard to clean too, because the paint goes on the little bumps and you have to clean it with your fingers one by one. And if you don't clean it properly the other color you place in there will have some of the previous color in it!!!

But the good thing is that im getting the hang of the airbrush. I actually really like it alot better than spray paint. One more question, see how you warm cans up so the paint flows better, Do you warm the paint your going to use on your airbrush?

PS: Martbee, i wish i could get those results that you get with your airbrush on my previously built models which i painted with spray paints. You have no idea how much i had to polish
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Old 10-15-2004, 08:41 PM   #140
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Re: Tamiya or Aztek Airbrush's

no, you warm a spraycan to give higher pressure to the spraycan. Since you can choose the pressure (PSI) with your compressor with an airbrush, there is no need at all to heat your paint
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no, you warm a spraycan to give higher pressure to the spraycan. Since you can choose the pressure (PSI) with your compressor with an airbrush, there is no need at all to heat your paint

OOhh i see! Great!
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Re: Tamiya or Aztek Airbrush's

Yea that is the cool thing about draining the paint from a can. I mean you wont have to thin the paint. Although I have heard of people thinning it with gunze thinner for good results. I personally think it does not need to be thinned but who am I for saying that when I havent even done it yet! Also another good thing is that tamiya makes some mixed colors like their bright red(TS-49) which is scuderia red that are some odd ratios to mix with ain airbrush. Finally they are laquers which polish out to a terrific shine! One a low note watch out for draining the can as I have had a bad experience with paint blowing up in my face... And yea just not good.

Succesfully I did it by attatching a thin straw directly to the tamiya nozzle. Connect the straw to the airbrush bottle. Put a piece of masking tape over the bottle with a hole for the straw and some random vents to gas the paint out as you are spraying. Once it is full then stir it for a while(5-10 minutes). Then open it hourly and stir it. You can hear it gass our as you open the bottle. Stir it again. Come back. I did it five times till I thought it was gassed out enough. Hard part now is spraying it!

BTW I was thinking of doing a how-to on it. Do you guys think I should?
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Old 10-16-2004, 10:50 PM   #143
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Re: Re: Tamiya or Aztek Airbrush's

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Yea that is the cool thing about draining the paint from a can. I mean you wont have to thin the paint. Although I have heard of people thinning it with gunze thinner for good results. I personally think it does not need to be thinned but who am I for saying that when I havent even done it yet! Also another good thing is that tamiya makes some mixed colors like their bright red(TS-49) which is scuderia red that are some odd ratios to mix with ain airbrush. Finally they are laquers which polish out to a terrific shine! One a low note watch out for draining the can as I have had a bad experience with paint blowing up in my face... And yea just not good.

Succesfully I did it by attatching a thin straw directly to the tamiya nozzle. Connect the straw to the airbrush bottle. Put a piece of masking tape over the bottle with a hole for the straw and some random vents to gas the paint out as you are spraying. Once it is full then stir it for a while(5-10 minutes). Then open it hourly and stir it. You can hear it gass our as you open the bottle. Stir it again. Come back. I did it five times till I thought it was gassed out enough. Hard part now is spraying it!

BTW I was thinking of doing a how-to on it. Do you guys think I should?
That would be very cool.

I have a question that is a bit off topic but hey its about paint.

I was thinking of doing my Integra in a two tone paint. Using Dupli Color automotive primer, dupli color automotive color, then airbrushing some Tamiya Acrylic black on the roof, and then airbrushing some Dupli Color Automotive Clear coat. Will they react? Should i use the Tamiya Acrylic Clear coat? Whats the best? I want to airbrush the roof though. Should i just clear the whole car with Tamiya Acrylic Clear?
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Old 10-17-2004, 08:55 AM   #144
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From what I've seen in the past, DupliColor and Tamiya dont mix. Also heres a rule for painting, I apply it to models as well; never cross breed, stick with the same brand and same type from primer to clear.
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Re: Tamiya or Aztek Airbrush's

I would have to disagree with Mike on this one. I dont see why tamiya ACRYLIC would not go over duplicolor. Now tamiya LAQUER might be another story.

But to answer Joehams question, I wouldnt not spray tamiya gloss colors. They do not polish well and they take a long time to harden. About the clear coat, tamiyas acrylic would also work but like I said it will take long to harden. Testors laquers would actually work over tamiya acrylics. It may sound funny but it does work! They are not hot at all so it wont crack over the acrylic. Also it turns hard in a week and polishes out like any other laquer.
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I would have to disagree with Mike on this one. I dont see why tamiya ACRYLIC would not go over duplicolor. Now tamiya LAQUER might be another story.

But to answer Joehams question, I wouldnt not spray tamiya gloss colors. They do not polish well and they take a long time to harden. About the clear coat, tamiyas acrylic would also work but like I said it will take long to harden. Testors laquers would actually work over tamiya acrylics. It may sound funny but it does work! They are not hot at all so it wont crack over the acrylic. Also it turns hard in a week and polishes out like any other laquer.
So what your saying is that if i spray Tamiya Acrylic black (which i would want to be pretty glossy) it would not get glossy? So then i could use Dupli Color Automotive Primer then Dupli Color Automotive paint for the body and over that i could use Tamiya Acrylic Black for the roof and over that i could use Testors lacquer to seal everything? Testors Laquer meaning the Clear coat (#1814)? I'll try it on this Modifier i got going on. If something bad happens to it then i'll post it.

What types/brands of colors do you guys use to airbrush model cars and get a glossy finish?
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I did not mean that it would not get glossy, it just doesnt polish out as well. When I wetsanded my F189 (which was X-7) it didnt turn out as glossy as a laquer finish but it was still very glossy. But the main problem was its drying time, which I hear can be solved via food deyhydrator.

I would test out what you would like to try and see how it works. It would not be safe not to test things out, especially when it is your first time.

I have yet to succesfully airbrush a body. I have used Tamiya TS sprays with flying colors. Their sprays are so wonderful, and polish out so nicely.
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I did not mean that it would not get glossy, it just doesnt polish out as well. When I wetsanded my F189 (which was X-7) it didnt turn out as glossy as a laquer finish but it was still very glossy. But the main problem was its drying time, which I hear can be solved via food deyhydrator.

I would test out what you would like to try and see how it works. It would not be safe not to test things out, especially when it is your first time.

I have yet to succesfully airbrush a body. I have used Tamiya TS sprays with flying colors. Their sprays are so wonderful, and polish out so nicely.
Ohh i see what you mean. Their drying time could be like a week or so?

I was just about to test out what i wanted to do but i noticed i just noticed i ran out of black

If you airbrush TS sprays will it still come out with that awful smell!!!!!
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Re: Tamiya or Aztek Airbrush's

I know some modeller that tried Tamiya Clear acrylic (X-22 I think) and it seem to never dry.

I personally don't like working with tamiya acrylic paint for body. Engine, interor, chasis it's fine, but not body. just my opinion
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Ohh i see what you mean. Their drying time could be like a week or so?

I was just about to test out what i wanted to do but i noticed i just noticed i ran out of black

If you airbrush TS sprays will it still come out with that awful smell!!!!!
Drying time for me was more like a month... Even still it was soft! They just do not harden up.
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