Overheating 2001

[richtazz]

Regardless of the numbers on the guage, the temp during normal operation should be about 1/4 of the way up the guage, and it is normal for it to creep up towards 1/2 way during extended stop and go driving or on hot days. To insure there is no air trapped behind the t-stat, you may want to try drilling a 1/8" diameter hole in the flange of the t-stat prior to installation to help bleed the air out (I have no idea why there isn't a jiggle valve on this stat in the first place). Make sure you put the hole you drilled at the 12-O'clock position when you install the stat (as this engine's t-stat mounts with the flange positioned vertically, not horizontally) and see if your overheating issues go away.

[CMFan]

Well the stat is already in, but if it doesn't work out that way we can pull it back out, make sure its still good and do that and put it back in.

Right now we just put the Tensioner on as the last one broke, now were putting the belts back on. Will let you know what is going on.

[tblake]

Good Luck!!!

[CMFan]

Thanks!!

Oh when things go they really go, and all you can do is laugh. Got the Water pump on, got the tensioner on, t-stat in everything hooked up not one problem in any of that, tried it, started to go up in temp. Okay we still had to bleed it.

But noticed a chirping around the belt area, okay it loosens, we tighten, so we decide okay we will get back to that. So time to Bleed it, welll it got bleed all over the place, lol. We did this a thousand times, and the thousand and one the bleeder that you turn to bleed it, out just a bit to far and it blew the car got an antifreeze bath. We got out of the way and the car turned off.

Course chain reaction, when it went woosh the bleeder that you turn went flying, we have to find it now. we didn't watch it cause we were to busy getting the heck out of the way.

So basically now all that is left, (In Bold what we got done)
Find that Bleeder or get another (Found it)
Add more antifreeze and re-bleed it. (Done)
Then test it. (Ran nicely and dang fine heat, Temp Gauge steady & holding)
Give car bath lol (Going to do that, which will work for another test run)

Left to do...
Figure out why the chirping is happening. & How to stop it.
How to keep that dang belt tightened.

[tblake]

As the car is running but not hot yet, dump a couple gallons of water on the belt and pulley area. Chirping noise after replacing the waterpump is normal untill all the antifreeze dries up off the belt. Then with the belt on, go back over the 4 waterpump pulley bolts to make sure they are tight.

And to answer your question, the belt should have an automatic tension that does not need to be tightened.

[CMFan]

Originally Posted by tblake

As the car is running but not hot yet, dump a couple gallons of water on the belt and pulley area. Chirping noise after replacing the waterpump is normal untill all the antifreeze dries up off the belt. Then with the belt on, go back over the 4 waterpump pulley bolts to make sure they are tight.

And to answer your question, the belt should have an automatic tension that does not need to be tightened.

Will try that with the water, thanks.

as to your second this is the tensioner we got - Dayco Automatic Belt Tensioner, Lt Duty. But it still acts like it is loose.

[tblake]

Hmmm, that looks right for a 3100.

Check to make sure it is on in the right direction, and that the belt is routed right. Match up the old one to the new one to make sure that both tensioners have the same size pulley.

[CMFan]

Originally Posted by tblake

Check to make sure it is on in the right direction, and that the belt is routed right. Match up the old one to the new one to make sure that both tensioners have the same size pulley.

Yep its on in the right direction. The belt route is correct double checked by a diagram of it from (I think its called Fixya), they look the same but will double check that last one. Checked it and it is the same size.

[CMFan]

Well we took the car a bit farther, and it pegged out. So pulled over it cooled, coming back did it again. Problem on that not fixed. We might try the whole in the t-stat I don't know.

A friend says take the t-stat out and drive it until it goes, thing is I don't want to be in the middle of nowhere when it say, sorry tired, I am done.

[richtazz]

that tensioner shows it comes with a new bolt, which normally indicates a difference in thickness at the mount location. Did you reuse the old bolt or the new one that came with the tensioner? If you tried reusing the old bolt, it may not hold the tensioner tight to the front cover. This could allow the locating pin to pop out of the front cover, which in turn would not allow the tensioner spring to exert tension on the belt.

[CMFan]

Originally Posted by richtazz

that tensioner shows it comes with a new bolt, which normally indicates a difference in thickness at the mount location. Did you reuse the old bolt or the new one that came with the tensioner? If you tried reusing the old bolt, it may not hold the tensioner tight to the front cover. This could allow the locating pin to pop out of the front cover, which in turn would not allow the tensioner spring to exert tension on the belt.

Used new bolt.

We added up what we put into the car and close to 665.33. I can't afford to go much further, thats parts, garages, etc from when we got it to now.

[CMFan]

I just wanted to take the time to thank all you guys that tried to help us get the car fixed, as I said above it was just getting to the point of being too costly and frustrating to say the least.

The car has gone to the junk yard, and has officially been smashed. Watched it happen. It was a great car, loved it dearly. but like I said..

But again Thank you for the help you gave to us, we do appreciate it.

[tblake]

NO!!!

I would have paid you 30.00 for the plastic front air deflector if yours wasn't cracked!

[CMFan]

I'm sorry. Hmm I can see if they removed any parts off the car if that will help. I know the people well, I am related to them.

I wasn't out, but usually the guy that deals with the cars, he took out the battery, and tires, and gas tank, and I was inside talking to them, he is fast and good at getting parts off, I can see if he got that off. And what they want for it, I know they don't believe in gouging people especially in these times.

Is there any other that would interchange, just incase?

[tblake]

not sure, probably 97-03. It might not be worth it because it is sort of big and shipping would be unreasonable. Thanks for checking though.