Car of the year 2003

Stefanel1 · 11-20-2002, 05:29 PM

The Mégane II has been elected by an European jury.
The Mégane II is original, I didn't like it (on pics) untill I saw it on the road. Plus she got 5 stars to the EuroNcap crash-tests (best note withe the Laguna and C-Class).

Cars of the year in Europe since 1964 :

2003 Renault Mégane II
2002 Peugeot 307
2001 Alfa Romeo 147
2000 Toyota Yaris
1999 Ford Focus
1998 Alfa Romeo 156
1997 Renault Mégane Scénic
1996 Fiat Bravo / Brava
1995 Fiat Punto
1994 Ford Mondeo
1993 Nissan Micra
1992 Volkswagen Golf
1991 Renault Clio
1990 Citroën XM
1989 Fiat Tipo
1988 Peugeot 405
1987 Opel Omega
1986 Ford Scorpio
1985 Opel Kadett
1984 Fiat Uno
1983 Audi 100
1982 Renault 9
1981 Ford Escort
1980 Lancia Delta
1979 Simca-Chrysler Horizon
1978 Porsche 928
1977 Rover 3500
1976 Simca 1307-1308
1975 Citroën CX
1974 Mercedes 450
1973 Audi 80
1972 Fiat 127
1971 Citroën GS
1970 Fiat 128
1969 Peugeot 504
1968 NSU Ro 80
1967 Fiat 124
1966 Renault 16
1965 Austin 1800
1964 Rover 2000

Stefanel1 · 11-20-2002, 05:32 PM

pic of this car.

La Temperanza · 11-20-2002, 08:29 PM

Not bad... sport wagons are pretty cool. I wish we had Renault over here, or anyone with some decent diesels to offer.

What's a Toyota Yaris?

Stefanel1 · 11-21-2002, 10:34 AM

I don't know for Renault, but if you want some french cars, PSA (Peugeot Citroën) will come back in the USA arround 2005. Alfa Romeo (Italian) will also come back in the same time. But you can buy Alfas in the USA now : "Autodelta" is importing some (the equivalent of M for BMW or AMG for Mercedes).

VW sells diesels there, isn't it ? I saw a Jetta TDI in Florida last summer. Do BMW, Mercedes, Audi (etc.) sell diesel in the States ?

The Yaris is a competitor of the 206, Clio, Fiesta, etc. (picture).

La Temperanza · 11-21-2002, 11:03 AM

Yeah, we have VW diesels, but only the 90 hp ones- not so weak they're unusable, but with nothing to sway people from their faithful gasoline engines. Mercedes used to sell diesels too, but they stopped in 1998.

Hmm... I wonder if the Yaris is related at all to the new Matrix (a Pontiac/Toyota joint design derived mostly from the Corolla.)

Stefanel1 · 11-23-2002, 06:09 AM

The Toyota Matrix (which exists only on the US market) is not the same car as the Yaris (pic). But that's not unpossible that the two cars have the same platform. Don't know

The TDI 90 are good but they are the less powerfull and older. You've 100, 130 and 150hp on the Golf and Passat, and also a V6 TDI on the Passat (same motor as on the Audi A4 and A6). The Cayenne has a V10 TDI 330hp !
That's suprising that VAG doesn't export these motors. Are you sure ?

jsb88 · 11-23-2002, 09:45 AM

I like the Matrix, but i think the peugeot 307 is the best car of the year ever! it is my favourite 3 door!

Cbass · 11-23-2002, 10:32 AM

Unfortunately, we don't get any of the good diesels here in North America...

BTW Temperanza, what sways people away from the gas engines is 60+ mpg on cheaper fuel...

jsb88 · 11-24-2002, 03:49 AM

ahhh.....

Stefanel1 · 11-24-2002, 08:43 AM

The Peugeot 307 is very nice indeed. But it was the car of the year 2002... it cannot be again car of the year

jsb88 · 11-26-2002, 08:05 AM

Can it be again if a new type comes out? like if they shoved a new engine in?

Menu dei Motori · 11-26-2002, 08:37 AM

i don´t like the megane!
but the new peugot models look quite nice!

jsb88 · 11-26-2002, 09:12 AM

I like the peugeot! they won a lot of rallies this and last year.

Menu dei Motori · 11-26-2002, 09:31 AM

for long time there hasn´t been a real sportscar on first place since porsche 928...

jsb88 · 11-26-2002, 09:33 AM

ugghhhh porsche....... Jag XJ220??

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