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06-25-2004, 08:34 PM | #31 | ||
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Re: Re: Re: Subaru STI vs. RX7 vs. Lightning
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06-25-2004, 08:39 PM | #32 | |
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Re: Subaru STI vs. RX7 vs. Lightning
Here.. I'll do it for you
http://www.mustangmonthly.com/featur...173_0306_mach/ Mach 1 VS Cobra Read: We've heard about other Mach 1s dipping into the 13.20s with more experienced Driver's Oh wait.. That just can't happen. It must be a lie..
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06-25-2004, 09:14 PM | #33 | ||
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First off, Thanks for giving me that link. I now have no doubt that Mach 1 can run good on the 1/4. But to tell you seriously, the STi is slightly faster than the Mach 1. The HP is about the same.. .the Mach 1 having 5 hp more. Heres what I think. The STi is faster than the Mach 1 given equal drivers. STi with normal driver is around 13.2-13.4s at the 1/4. While the Mach 1 with average driver might be slightly higher. The guy doing the review might have more skill then an average driver would have. So lets say the Mach 1 is around 13.5-13.8s. As you can see there alittle differce in the numbers. Lets say a STi with professional drivers. Most of the STi runs I seen with real professional race car driver are around 12.8-13.0, and as the magazine or article say they have heard that professional have ran 13.2s so given the fact that you have seen a Mach 1 running 13.0 flat then lets say 13.0-13.20s. The STi has 300hp and 300 ft lb of torque and AWD (having a better advantage at the start). The Mach 1 has 305hp and 320 lb-ft and RWD. Therefore I think in the 1/4 most of the time STi is faster. On highway the Mach 1 and STi should be pretty much even.
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06-25-2004, 09:42 PM | #34 | |
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No, I saw a Mach 1 run a 13.0 at my local drag strip.
The link was more for that talon guy, considering he said a low 13 was impossible from a Mach 1. So I just had to show him he need's to read before he say's stuff.
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06-25-2004, 10:08 PM | #35 | ||
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If a pure stock 305 HP Mach 1 is a 13.0 car then the Cobra is a 12.2 and the STI is a 12.5 and we all know that ain't true. Numbers don't lie, 305 HP, 3450 pounds RWD = 13.6-13.8. FACT! I mean, just think about it, the Cobra is the same, exact car with 85 more HP visa a stock added supercharger, do you really think a pure stock 305 HP Mach 1 is going to run close to that? 85 more HP is worth about .6 or so in the 1/4 mile on a Mustang, hence the 13.1 cobra times, and the 13.8 Mach 1 times. Anyone that told you his 13.0 Mach 1 is pure stock sold you a bill of goods. |
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06-25-2004, 10:16 PM | #36 | |
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Re: Subaru STI vs. RX7 vs. Lightning
Even if his 13.0 wasnt stock, what about that 13.2 in the link.. Oh wait, you don't believe that's stock..
Go to the mustang forum on here, Ask them if a Mach 1 can hit low 13's stock. And see what they say to you. But nothing can get through to you, After all. You know everything.
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06-25-2004, 10:22 PM | #37 | |
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Re: Subaru STI vs. RX7 vs. Lightning
You seem to like to ignore facts and rely on other folks claims, give me one good factual reason how a 305 HP RWD 3450 pound car on street tires that is pure stock can run a 13.0? That time defies the laws of math, that weight car with RWD needs a minimum of 365 HP to hit 13.0 and that motor from the factory without a supercharger like the Cobra has is simply not setup to deliver 365 HP.
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06-25-2004, 10:24 PM | #38 | |
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Re: Subaru STI vs. RX7 vs. Lightning
http://www.mach1registry.org/forums/...threadid=19291
Gee.. Stock car.. check the time slip, AND Dyno chart..
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06-25-2004, 10:30 PM | #39 | |
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Re: Subaru STI vs. RX7 vs. Lightning
For every "Stock" 13.1 you have I can find a 13.5+ stock.
http://www.highperformancepontiac.co...07pon_gtotest/ Pontiac mag which is good for wringing out fast times best was a 13.47. |
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06-25-2004, 10:33 PM | #40 | |
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Re: Subaru STI vs. RX7 vs. Lightning
Also note, the new 2005 Mustang GT which is a better motor than the Mach 1, has 300 HP and is rated by Ford for a 13.8-13.9 1/4 mile.
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06-25-2004, 10:35 PM | #41 | |
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MY god, I just saw the guys screen name that ran this super 13.1 you linked to, it's none other than "1/4 mile newbie" LOL! You think 1/4 mile newbie is setting records with his Mach1?
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06-25-2004, 10:35 PM | #42 | |
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Who care's.. We are talking about stock Mach 1's running low 13's.. You said it's not possible to run a flat 13. So I showed a link of a guy with a STOCK 13.1 and you still can't take the fact that your wrong and Mach 1's can indeed run a flat 13 with a good enough driver. Give it up, your just like every other noob and you come in here thinking you know everything. I'm not trying to sound like an ass but seriously dude, your arguing with me over something that's BS, I show proof and you still argue it's not true.
BTW: Got any proof your car is running this so called "10.5"?
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06-25-2004, 10:37 PM | #43 | |
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Re: Subaru STI vs. RX7 vs. Lightning
ummm...I've been racing for over 28 years now sonny boy. My guess is mr. 1/4 mile newbie was looking at the wrong side of the time slip.
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06-25-2004, 10:38 PM | #44 | |
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Re: Subaru STI vs. RX7 vs. Lightning
Excuse's Excuse's....
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06-25-2004, 10:40 PM | #45 | ||
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Proof, yeah, come to Great Lakes Dragway in Union Grove Wisconsin, I've been racing there well over 28 years now...I'LL GIVE YOU PROOF. |
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