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Old 12-01-2006, 02:44 AM   #16
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Re: Is a SUV or Van a truck?

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Old 12-01-2006, 02:47 AM   #17
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Re: Is a SUV or Van a truck?

if suvs and vans are trucks then why isnt it a Van Truck or a Sport Utility Truck? instead we have pickup trucks, dump trucks, cargo trucks... etc...
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Old 12-01-2006, 02:51 AM   #18
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Re: Is a SUV or Van a truck?

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if suvs and vans are trucks then why isnt is a Van Truck or a Sport Utility Truck? instead we have pickup trucks, dump trucks, cargo trucks... etc...
Why is there a Sports car and you never hear sedan car or wagon car . Now you are really reaching .
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Old 12-01-2006, 03:55 AM   #19
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Re: Is a SUV or Van a truck?

Example 1: full size ford bronco. Remove the top, its now a truck.

Example 2: full size blazer. Remove the top, its now a truck.

Example 3: international scout. remove the top, its now a truck.

These were considered "all-terrain passenger vehicles". They were considered part of each companies truck line. This was before "suv" was marketed.

Just because they added cup holders and the tops of suv's arent removeable, doesnt in my opinion make them any less truck. All they did is took a truck chassis, removed the partition between the bed and cab, and threw a back seat in it and a lid on it to suit sales.

van definition:

1.a covered vehicle, usually a large truck or trailer, used for moving furniture, goods, animals, etc. 2.a smaller boxlike vehicle that resembles a panel truck, often has double doors both at the rear and along the curb side, and that can be used as a truck, fitted with rows of seats, or equipped with living quarters for traveling and camping.

SUV definition:

sport utility vehicle: n : a high-performance four-wheel drive car built on a truck chassis.


car definition: 1. an automobile

>By definition a van and suv is a kind of truck and they are all cars.
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Old 12-01-2006, 10:20 AM   #20
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Re: Is a SUV or Van a truck?

I have 2 words for all of ya'll:


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Old 12-01-2006, 11:12 AM   #21
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Re: Is a SUV or Van a truck?

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Well, there goes that theory.

Seriously, since my insurance company classifies my suv as a truck, it is therefore a truck. (Even if its rides "car like" and never seen any off road debris). Its still a truck, not because its called Sports utility Vehicle (actually (Surburban Use Vehicles) but because it is based on a truck platform.

Its funny, back in 2004 from one of my assemblymen prosed this brainiac idea.

Personnally I think its an ongoing evolution of cars. It was only two types, cars and trucks, cars gave birth to station wagons, trucks (uncovered) gave birth to vans (covered trucks) which gave birth to minivans. Somewhere along the way, the SUV became a marriage of the station wagon and minivan. Nowadays, even the SUV is morphing into the cross over vehicle (even though I think the Dodge Magnum is a station wagon on steriods).

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Old 12-01-2006, 11:13 AM   #22
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Re: Is a SUV or Van a truck?

an el camino is a truck
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Re: Is a SUV or Van a truck?

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an el camino is a truck
I look at it this way:

A Explorer is enclosed rear Ranger, thus it's a truck, same as Expition = F150, Tahoe, Escalade, Silverado = 1500, so, all the same platform of a truck.

This makes an el camin a trunkless Monte Carlo (Chevelle in it's earlier days), a car, you loose.

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Old 12-01-2006, 11:20 AM   #24
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Re: Is a SUV or Van a truck?

I consider SUVs and Vans trucks. Depends on what type of frame they build it on. Im guessing an El Camino was built from a truck frame? Other wise people would try to carry stuff then complain when the frame broke only to have Chevy say "well its not actually a truck" etc.
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Re: Is a SUV or Van a truck?

First of all (GENO!) an Oldsmobile Bravada doesn't qualify as a truck... it's too girly.

Second; NJ also has Pole-Smoking Governors, so what their license plates say means absolutely nothing.

Third; I'm with Dylan, the chassis dictates the type of vehicle...

Fourth; Allstate considered my 97 Z71 a "wagon" so what insurance companies say is tripe.

And FINALY --- A SPORT UTILITY VEHICLE IS NOT NECESSARILY A TRUCK. If you would consider a Hyundai Sante Fe, and Acura MDX, or a Lexus RX400 (or whatever the hell it is) or any of the "sport-cutes" a truck then you are a SERIOUS, limp-wristed fag. However! I do agree with the Ford Ranger / Explorer, Chevy S-10 / Blazer, GMC Jimmy / GMC S-15 (Sorry Geno, Olds didn't make a truck version of the Bravada... yours is a CAR... )

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SUV definition: sport utility vehicle: n : a high-performance four-wheel drive car built on a truck chassis.
See immediately preceding paragraph. And smack whoever you copied that bullshit from. Most "High-performance four wheel drive cars have axles that would burst into a million pieces if actually used in a manner for which they are marketed... let alone would they have the clearance to get more than about 15 inches off any paved surface.

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car definition: 1. an automobile >By definition a van and suv is a kind of truck and they are all cars.
By definition any vehicle that moves with it's own propulsion system is an automobile. Cars, trucks, vans, mini-vans, motorcycles, suv's are all automobiles. A van / truck is NOT a car, and an SUV can be either depending upon the chassis.... usually not when referencing an "SUV" produced by a foreign automobile company.

That being said... I consider a Pickup Truck or any variant a truck, and anything else a car / wagon / van depending on size.

My Father in law calls his Chrysler Town & Country a truck, but what does he know... he's from Michigan.
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Re: Is a SUV or Van a truck?

i got those definitions from http://dictionary.reference.com/

Perhaps the definition is correct, and the vehicles they sell as that type dont fit into their own classification.
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Re: Is a SUV or Van a truck?

BTW, just to add stuff.. there is such a thing as SUT..



The Avalanche and Cadillac Escalade EXT (Avalanche look alike) fall into that SUT category.

Anyway, my useless opinion is that a van and suv are trucks..
and jim, just because some SUVs were built "sissier" than others doesnt change their designation, just means they are for sissies..

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Re: Is a SUV or Van a truck?

By any definition of "SUV" they are supposed to have 4x4, and most made these days are 2x4. Sounds like an error in classification. maybe they need to come up with a new classification for the 2x4 versions. "FUV", flaming utility vehicle.
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Re: Is a SUV or Van a truck?

u guys are making this way to complicated
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Re: Is a SUV or Van a truck?

Actually, they make 4x2 SUVs to sell in more volumes.. main reason why there is a v6 Camaro then a Z28.
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