Problem with brakes. - Page 4

serge_saati · 10-31-2009, 12:20 PM

I never seen it. But an electronician tells me that. I think that all dealerships have a computer that permit to do that. Ask Toyota if you doubt of it.

zippy_LiL_SL1 · 10-31-2009, 02:46 PM

Tool or no tool. I now have the sensor and installed it. The ABS light is off but the original problem persists. I was going to attempt changing the ABS module and pump but I just don't have time and quite frankly, I don't care.

It runs, it drives.....

It's for sale.

I don't expect anyone here to ask about it but... $1,300 obo.

serge_saati · 10-31-2009, 03:16 PM

You have more chance to sell it if you remove the ABS fuse. Nobody will buy a car that slip each time he apply the brakes.

Airjer_ · 10-31-2009, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by serge_saati

You have more chance to sell it if you remove the ABS fuse. Nobody will buy a car that slip each time he apply the brakes.

There's some more poor advice! I suppose you wouldn't mention anything to the people that purchased it either?

Seriously for a $100 and 3 weeks ago you could have had this taken care of. How much time and money have you already wasted and have advanced no further than when you made your first post. This likely has nothing to do with any modules or pumps and has a simple fix.

serge_saati · 10-31-2009, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Airjer_

There's some more poor advice! I suppose you wouldn't mention anything to the people that purchased it either?

I'm not a crooker. If I would sell a car w/ ABS disabled, I'll tell them. Anyway, the person will see the ABS light in the dashboard. I'm sure he doesn't mind, unless the buyer is you

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About the problem, It may be a sensor misalignment issue, but zippy_LiL_SL1 doesn't want to repair it anyway... Too much trouble to repair it.

Airjer_ · 10-31-2009, 08:30 PM

If you pull the ABS fuse to disable the ABS system, how will the ABS light be on?

serge_saati · 10-31-2009, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Airjer_

If you pull the ABS fuse to disable the ABS system, how will the ABS light be on?

The mega fuse of the ABS supply only to the ABS pump, not the module. The module system will detect no voltage at the pump and the light will be on.
It's the case in my van.

Airjer_ · 11-01-2009, 12:21 PM

Ohhhh, so you have to pull a specific fuse in order to disable a safety feature and have the light illuminate all at the same time.

serge_saati · 11-01-2009, 03:59 PM

I think you don't understand. The light is ON because I removed the fuse. The system detects that the power circuit of the ABS is not supplied so it displays the warning.
The ABS computer module is still supplied with the 12V and still computing data.

If you want to try, remove the ABS fuse of your truck, run for 1/4 mile, and the ABS light will display in your dashboard. Then turn off the engine, and place the fuse back. When you'll start again, the light will not be there.

Airjer_ · 11-01-2009, 04:28 PM

I have 14 years in the business and specialize in electrical and drivability. I have a pretty good handle on things. Like I tell the people I deal with. If the repair is expensive it my not be worthwhile based on the value of the car. If the repair is simple/cheap why not fix it. You don't know which it will be until you have it looked at. The time to find out if it might have helped a situation is not after the situation is over. I would also question a persons liability in a major accident if it was determined that the ABS was deliberately disabled?

I'm sorry you don't understand the benefits or how to use your ABS effectively. If it is engaging regularly in poor driving conditions than maybe your driving beyond the conditions of the road, essential its your driving that's the problem not the ABS! Slowing down might be a better resolution rather than disabling a perfectly good system doing what it is supposed to do.

serge_saati · 11-01-2009, 04:42 PM

I'm driving slowly, but sometime there's ice hidden under the snow, how I should know that before? And I always feel more control on the car by pumping the brake rather than letting the ABS do it's job, cause it doesn't brake enough hard.

I'm not the only one who do that, the FIA disable the ABS and traction control on all the F1 vehicles. Some drivers are more happy, cause it's more sporty to drive a racing vehicle without these safety features.

In the Ferrari F355 there's a switch near the gearbox that permit to switch the ABS on and off.

Of course, driving a racing car at 220mph w/o ABS and TRAC is dangerous, but I'm not doing a race with my Windstar.

zippy_LiL_SL1 · 11-01-2009, 06:30 PM

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How much time and money have you already wasted...

So far, about 1 hour and $49.95 for a new sensor that I broke, myself, out of ignorance.

FWIW, it's listed on craigslist and the ABS problem IS advertised. There's no light on the dash anymore because I replaced that sensor.

Hell, I've already had two people call about it.

Believe me, if I knew exactly what the problem was and I had sufficient time to repair it, I'd do it.

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