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Old 04-06-2003, 11:22 PM   #46
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would the torque be the same bcuz of the AWD??
What

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and if there were RB26 hittin da 1500 HP, would could it hit in a 1/4 mile??
I think there is a lot more than just one variable to figure that question out.

Tires
Tire pressure
Temp
Dew point
Barometric Pressure
Trans gearing
Rear End Gearing
Driver
Track
Clutch
Driver
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Rev range
Cars weight
Bird poop on the windshield
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Old 04-06-2003, 11:41 PM   #47
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wow...

tq has nothing to do with the drivetrain.

hp is directly related to tq through a mathematical equation.

(i don't know it off hand, but whatever)

if a skyline had 1500 hp, it would most likely have been converted to rwd, less parts to break.

1/4 times depend on what the car is set up for.

if it's got top end gearing, it would be hella straight over a 5 mile stretch, but not amazingly fast in the 1/4.

lower gearing would make for lightning quick launches and acceleration...
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Old 04-07-2003, 04:50 PM   #48
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The HKS GTR is still 4WD. They just have that handbreak thingy that turns off the front wheels for the burnout.
Hp= torque x revs or something like that.
HKS GTR has something like 1400HP at all 4 wheels.
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Old 04-07-2003, 04:51 PM   #49
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Re: heh heh

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GO TO www.exvitermini.com
u'll find many
BINGO...I Dl'ed those vids a long time ago. Check how that thing pulls on the dyno straps

Scary
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Old 04-07-2003, 10:46 PM   #50
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rpm x lb/ft
Its bhp = ________

5250


If you see a dyno, 5250 is where you will see the hp and torque curve cross, more often than not.
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Old 04-13-2003, 01:44 PM   #51
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I thought it might be a joke...

Lots of those - kids that make claims.

I know most of the GT-R owners in the US.

So if they dont know me - or I dont know them - there car is probably on their computer screen only....
Ive busted some guy who claimed he had HKS HEADERS on his R34....

if anyone claims to have an R33, I have a supreme way of busting them...
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Old 06-25-2003, 02:24 PM   #52
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Mario's has more displacement? Are you sure.

More displacement raises hp, really? You might want to do some more research on that
No, displacement doesn't automatically raise h.p. by itself, but allows for more potential whether it be from boring or stroking.

In it's most broken-down form, the old "There's not replacement for displacent" rule still holds true with piston motors--we're still only dealing with a glorified pump here.

With the case of the RB26DETT, it sounds like the sleeves and/or spacing between cylinders is a bit too thin to really go drastic on the bore, however, I don't see how stroking it for a better better rod to stroke ratio would adversely affect it (so long as the factory quench measurements were kept).

Is the problem that the people running biggger bores that it was cracking between the bores or the sleeves (Meaning was the block itself cracking? Or just the sleeves?) from cylinder pressure? Or a case of too much heat transference?

What about h.p. levels attained by the RB30 motors?
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Old 06-28-2003, 12:37 PM   #53
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CAN ANY1 TELL ME HOW SOME GUY IN A SMALL LOCAL W/SHOP WHETHER IT BE IN JAPAN/USA/NZ?/AUSTRALIA CAN GET MORE POWER OUT OF A PRODUCTION BASED ENGINE IE:RB26DETT WEN COSWORTH,TOYOTA,HONDA CAN ONLY MANAGE 1000BHP OUT OF A 2.78LT V8,3 BAR BOOST,METHANOL FUELLED,14,500RPM $125,000USD ENGINE.AND YES I OWN 2 GTR"S.I LOVED THE 1ST ONE SO MUCH I BOUGHT ANOTHER.
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Old 06-28-2003, 12:50 PM   #54
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Mario made 1107 awhp before.... I say 1500 hp is about as much as you will see for now on gas....

HKS Drag 180 went 190 + mph with RB

HKS R33 goes 180...

Veilside R32 went 170 mph.

Weight and horsepower factor into mph a car runs in a quarter.

If you knew the weights - you could do a guesstimate on power....
IS THAT THE SAME MARIO WHO CLAIMS TO HAVE ALUMINIUM BERYLLIUM PISTONS? WOT EVER!
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Old 06-28-2003, 01:31 PM   #55
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CAN ANY1 TELL ME HOW SOME GUY IN A SMALL LOCAL W/SHOP WHETHER IT BE IN JAPAN/USA/NZ?/AUSTRALIA CAN GET MORE POWER OUT OF A PRODUCTION BASED ENGINE IE:RB26DETT WEN COSWORTH,TOYOTA,HONDA CAN ONLY MANAGE 1000BHP OUT OF A 2.78LT V8,3 BAR BOOST,METHANOL FUELLED,14,500RPM $125,000USD ENGINE.AND YES I OWN 2 GTR"S.I LOVED THE 1ST ONE SO MUCH I BOUGHT ANOTHER.
How it is done? You'll have to ask the shop.

However, this happens all of the time. A lot of privateer shops have higher-output motors than the "big boys". When was the last time you saw a 4G63 Mitsu motor come from Ralli-Art w/ close to 1000 h.p.? (2.0 4 cylinder)

You've got to remember that a lot of the "big tuners" build engines that withstand these power levels for racing applications without blowing on a regular basis--if their motors put down 1000 h.p. but last all season vs. someone who builds a motor that blows every other event and puts down 1200 h.p.--who's gonna look like the better engine builder?

Just because someone doesn't work for a huge tuning company, doesn't mean that they're an inferior tuner or can't come with new/better ideas.

Another aspect is that a lot of the "big" tuners out there use their own parts exclusively in the building process--name me a tuning company out there that makes the best of everything.

Thinking that just because the company is huge means that they can get the most power out of an engine is like saying that Ford and GM make a better car then Ferrari/Lotus/Porsche because Ford and GM are bigger.
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Old 07-01-2003, 12:45 AM   #56
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DSSA: You hit the nail on the head there man. Reliability is probably the number one facter for them. They can build huge horsepower cars but if they keep breaking it is worthless to the customer. However, small shops can build personal cars and if they break it so what. They have nothing to lose. They are going to either stay small or take off. If they happen to have a few new ideas and set something up right...they become big news quick.
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Old 07-04-2003, 06:54 AM   #57
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Torque is usually less then BHP on an inline engine configuration, but on a V configuration, the case is opposite.

BHP is lost through the drivetrain as there are more parts being used (which is why 4WD, not AWD cars, weigh more than RWD - of course, it can be opposite - I.E. by theory a RWD car weighs less, but the interior could be Maybach quality ) to put power down to the ground, and these parts take up the power. 4wd = power being put down to twice as many wheels through twice as much driveline/parts etc.

But why be interested in the most powerful RB26DeTT. You'd be talking monster power, no reliability, running on methanol, driveability? Don't be stupid
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Old 07-05-2003, 05:57 PM   #58
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Three things OZZYR33GTR.

1. Both Reece and Croydon's R32 GTR's are pushing over 1000hp at the wheels. Both have dynoed their cars and have shown the sheets publicly. Get over yourself.

2. Stop posting in all caps in the Skyline Forums! I don't give a toss if you do it else where.

3. Get over yourself aye, play nice or piss off.

Simple.
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Old 07-06-2003, 09:39 AM   #59
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damn an oil change for an enzo cost over 700$ wtf , i do min for about 20 , 5 bottles of castrol gtx drive hard 10w30 and a oil filter and im set
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Re: What's The Most Powerful Rb26dett Out There???


Hi, in The issue with the 2.8 is that the overbore---the walls get thin- and the engine would possible have a short lifespan, how come they produce the Z- Tune skyline w/c is 2.8 liters? I'm really curious.
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