Why,why,why,why, WHY???

Vyacheslav · 11-10-2006, 11:40 PM

I am getting fed up, after 10 coats of clear.
Why does this happen, I have sprayed clear before this model and everything turned out tip top, but on this one for some reason when it's wet, it looks amazing, 20 min into drying it turns out with bazilion orange peel and looks like crap, i don't get it!!!!

RallyRaider · 11-11-2006, 12:16 AM

Is the surface you are spraying onto smooth? Surface preparation is the first step to a good finish.

white97ex · 11-11-2006, 12:32 AM

that is a TON of clear....As rallyraider asked...was the original surface smoothe? What type of clear are you spraying. If you have an airbrush, try switching to a urethane. It is self leveling

ales · 11-11-2006, 12:38 AM

Try polishing

Gamerxz · 11-11-2006, 12:41 AM

20 coats?! thats super thick... i do 4 coats to get my shine... and only 2 are wet coats

Vyacheslav · 11-11-2006, 02:58 AM

Surface was smooth when i sprayed my testors clear, after first time it didn't turn out well, i sanded everything down and tried again, I also tried polishing with 3 different tamiya compounds and it did a little but still left the orange peel in place. Now I just want to strip the god damn paint, what do I use to strip it again?

ales · 11-11-2006, 03:03 AM

Keep sanding and polishing. Compound will not remove orange peel (well, it will eventually, but so will rubbing the paint with your finger for days). You need to be patient and keep trying. If you're going to strip the model anyway, why no use it for practice before that? The sanding/polishing steps are described in the FAQ and tutorial sections, you'll find loads of information there.

bhop73 · 11-11-2006, 04:16 AM

What kind of paint are you using? I use Tamiya and rarely even use any clear at all.. just paint about 4-5 coats of can spray and polish/wax. (see link)

http://www.bhop73.com/models/silvia_...l/DSC_8308.jpg

Vyacheslav · 11-11-2006, 04:36 AM

i was using testors

Gamerxz · 11-11-2006, 04:50 AM

I got a feeling its either the paint is the problem or the way u spray... Paint can could be spraying out paint too thick or the paint isnt smooth when discharged from the can. Or u could be spraying not correctly , misting coats too much ... if u keep misting and misting until u get a wet coat then maybe thats why orange peel appears.

Vyacheslav · 11-11-2006, 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Gamerxz

I got a feeling its either the paint is the problem or the way u spray... Paint can could be spraying out paint too thick or the paint isnt smooth when discharged from the can. Or u could be spraying not correctly , misting coats too much ... if u keep misting and misting until u get a wet coat then maybe thats why orange peel appears.

I spray a nice wet coat, only mist the first coat(s)
Ill try not using clear coat on my next job, see if it works better for me.

it would be nice if you could explain your exact steps of painting, polishing a car.

speedphreak · 11-11-2006, 07:58 AM

Check in the tutorials. Primera Man has an excellant tut. on how to paint and polish using tamiya paints and not using clear coat. But you cant use metallics or pearls obviously. You must clear before polishing those. If you use an Italian red for example, you can polish it out with no clear in 7-14 days. Check it out.

-Chris

Gamerxz · 11-11-2006, 08:08 AM

Without clear .. u dont get that deep shine. its shiny , yes but it doesnt look like car paint

MPWR · 11-11-2006, 08:40 AM

Details man, details!

What exactly are you doing? What are you using? How are you doing it?

What did you paint with? What did you prime with? What are you clearing with (Testors what? Spray laquer? Metalizer sealer? Can, airbrush?) If you want good help, you have to tell us everything you can about what you're doing and what is happening. Vague questions only lead to vague answers.

I have a suspicion (guess!) you're putting laquer clear on too heavy and too fast- but unless you tell us what's going on, all we can do is waste our time and yours with guessing....

drunken monkey · 11-11-2006, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Gamerxz

Without clear .. u dont get that deep shine. its shiny , yes but it doesnt look like car paint

you DON'T have to spray clear onto colours to get a good "deep" shine.
what you DO need is a perfectly sanded smooth, absolutely no bumps at all on your paint before you finish your polishing.
depending on your finishing product, you can even get an amazing reflective shine on non-perfectly smooth paint but it is the uneveness on paint that shows up the flaws in a paint job.

i'll get some pics of some black bodies i've got to show what i mean when i get the time.

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