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FORD 21 29.17%
CHEVY 51 70.83%
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Old 09-25-2002, 05:37 PM   #31
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yep, but i mean who do you think is better? Cars that have the Ford badge or cars that have the Chevrolet badge? regardless of the holding companies etc.

Agian its a pointless comparison.
Thanks to the wonders of badge enginering by both companys.

The Ford Escort/Lazer Mazda 323/Famila is a classic example.
Its a shit little shopping cart designed by Mazda under Ford ownership. (except the GTR, and BFMR models which are damn fast little buggers!)
However they are sold all over the world with either Ford or Mazda badges. And in some countrys like here in NZ with either or. You can goto a Ford dealer and buy a new Lazer, or go next door to Mazda and buy the same car with a differnt bumber and badge.

Pretty much anything with a Chevy badge on it (with the exception of the light Trucks) in the US is sold else where in the world with a Pontiac, or Holden, or Opel or Toyota badge on it.
Chevy through GM is much more involved in how it brands its vechiles for differnt markets, than Ford is. A company which once its taken over another auto maker prefers to slap its own badges on thier cars.

So to compare Ford with Chevy, you actualy have to compare Ford with GM. Since pretty much anywhere in the world, including the US Chevy = GM.

And based on that Comparison then if Ford didn't own most of the worth while British car makers then I would have to say GM, and certianly if you look at the $$ made then its clearly GM.
But Ford is doing a good job of letting Jaguar etc simply get on with doing what they do best. So despite the generally cheap and nasty hold the technology image I have of Ford models here in NZ, compared with GM products, the new Mondeo, and Mazda 6 as well as the new Jaguar XJ6 show that Ford is prehaps turning around and imbracing modern design ideas, and modern technology, and GM prehaps needs to watch its back.
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So to compare Ford with Chevy, you actualy have to compare Ford with GM. Since pretty much anywhere in the world, including the US Chevy = GM.
Thats a fact that is lost among a lot of people.













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Euro19-Actually no. If you are talking in the US, here it goes:
Taurus outsells Impala
Mustang outsells Camaro and took it out of bussiness
Explorer outsells Blazer and TrailBlazer
Escape outsells Tracker
Focus outsells Cavalier
ZX2 outsells Cavalier Z24
Contour outsells (or did) Malibu
Windstar outsells Venture
Expedition outsells Tahoe, or maybe tight
F-series outsells Silverado
Ranger outsells S-10
Corvette outsells tuned Mustang Cobras
SporTrack outsells Avalanche

and so on..........

HA!
Blazer and TrailBlazer outsells Explorer
Tracker smokes Escape in sales
Cavalier outsells Focus
Cavalier Z24 outsells Zx2
Contour never did outsell Malibu
Tahoe outsells Expedition
Avalanche smokes SporTrack in sales

Taurus outsells Impala
Mustang outsells Camaro
Windstar outsells Venture
F-series outsells Silverado
Ranger outsells S-10
Corvette outsells tuned Mustang Cobras
Those I agree
but I travel a lot and I see a hell of a lot more Chevys on the road than i do Fords so I dont see how you came to your conclusion about all these Fords outselling Chevys.I also read up on these things a lot.Chevy outsells Ford by a long shot.We had a 1994 Taurus and when you shut the doors on that car it sounded like two tins cans hitting and it always caused us problems.I hated that damn car.Oh and Fliquer,in case you didnt know,GM holds the record for largest automotive sales in the WORLD.That means that GM sells more cars than any car manufacturer in the world in case I confused you.
Anyway,my vote definately goes to Chevy.
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Chevy made the Nova... which is hands down the best car ever... yeah i know im so full of shit my eyes are turning brown...:hehehe:


I vote Chevy, I own 3. And I'll probably own more.


So yeah, Chevy.


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Donīt get confused! Iīm not comparing Ford to GM! But Ford to CHEVROLET, ok? And ofcourse GM sells more cars than Ford, even now that has Daewoo on its lists
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Donīt get confused! Iīm not comparing Ford to GM! But Ford to CHEVROLET, ok?


Have we not just spent I dont know how many pages discussing the fact that due to the difernt company structures and marketing stratergies of Ford and GM that it is a totaly pointless and impossible comparison?
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Have we not just spent I dont know how many pages discussing the fact that due to the difernt company structures and marketing stratergies of Ford and GM that it is a totaly pointless and impossible comparison?
GM is Chevy, Opel, Daewoo, and endless others. Ford motor group is Ford, Volvo etc. Chevrolet is NOT General Motors, they are owned by them, but they are a seperate brand name. Its like saying that you cant compare a Mercedes SL55 with a Chrysler Viper because they are owned by the same company.

What is youre favourite Chevrolet or Ford?
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What is youre favourite Chevrolet or Ford?

Favorite Chevy: Lotus Carlton.
Favorite Ford: Jaguar X type.

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Favorite Chevy: Lotus Carlton.Favorite Ford: Jaguar X type.





Not Ford Motor Group,just Ford itself.Like Escort,Taurus or Mustang.Ive never heard of a Chevy Lotus Carlton?What is it?
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Not Ford Motor Group,just Ford itself.
There is no distinction between the two.

and the Lotus Carlton is an Opel Omega with a Lotus enginered Suspension set up, and a Lotus enginered Twin Turbo version of the Opel 3.0L inline 6 cyclinder engine.
The Opel Omega was redesigned and sold as the Holden Comodore in Australia and NZ, and was then rebadge and sold in LHD as the Chevy Lumina in the Middle East. The Holden was then Tuned by HSV to get the Clubsport Senator models etc etc etc.
Holden version of the Omgea was then further reengered and sold in the US as the Chevy Caprice, and the orginal Holden design was rebadged by Toyota and sold in Japan and the US as a Toyota.

The same basic GM Opel design was therefore sold all over the world with engine configerations ranging from a 2L 4cly, a 3l inline 6, a 3.8L V6, a 5L V8, and a 5.7L V8, and badged as an Opel, a Holden, an HSV, a Toyota and a Chevy and a Lotus.

And of course there are Ford models like the Australian Ford Falcon, the rear suspension of which is used in many of the new Jaguar Models.
Infact in the EL version of the Ausie Fairmont (upmarket Falcon) there were even trim peices shared with the Jags, and of course the New Ford Mondeo in Europe uses the same V6 engine found in the new Jags, and which next year should find its way into the Ausie Fords.
Same with the new Quad Cam Ford V8.
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There is no distinction between the two.




Yes there is.Ford Motor Group includes Jaguar,Lincoln,Volvo,Mercury,Etc.
This Thread is a comparision between Ford,not including Jaguar,Lincoln or Volvo, and Chevy, not including GM.So yea,there is a difference between Ford and Ford Motor Group.
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Yes there is.Ford Motor Group includes Jaguar,Lincoln,Volvo,Mercury,Etc.
This Thread is a comparision between Ford,not including Jaguar,Lincoln or Volvo, and Chevy, not including GM.So yea,there is a difference between Ford and Ford Motor Group.

So what about Ford Europe? Or Ford Japan? or Ford Australia? Or Chevy in the Middle East? or in Australia? or in Europe?


Or how about trying to understand THAT THERE IS NO POSSIBLE DISTINCTION BETWEEN "FORD MOTOR GROUP" AND CARS WITH A FORD BADGE, JUST LIKE THERE IS NO DISTINCTION BETWEEN GM AND CARS WITH A CHEVY BADGE!
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i'm a stallion guy, what can I say I love the old pony cars. especially the old shelby stangs.
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[quote]So what about Ford Europe? Or Ford Japan? or Ford Australia? Or Chevy in the Middle East? or in Australia? or in Europe? Or how about trying to understand THAT THERE IS NO POSSIBLE DISTINCTION BETWEEN "FORD MOTOR GROUP" AND CARS WITH A FORD BADGE, JUST LIKE THERE IS NO DISTINCTION BETWEEN GM AND CARS WITH A CHEVY BADGE! [QOUTE]




Ok smarty.I see you are still not getting what we are compareing in this thread.
WE ARE COMPARING FORD AND CHEVY.IN THIS CASE WHEN WE SAY FORD,WE ARE NOT INCLUDING THE OTHER MAKES THAT FORD MAKES.WE ARE INCLUDING FORD AND JUST FORD BECAUSE YOU SEE,YOUR FAVORITE FORD YOU SAID WAS A JAGUAR.NOW THATS OK BUT IN THIS THREAD WE A NOT INCLUDING JAGUAR.JUST FORD.
ARE YOU GETINNG IT YET.MAYBE NOT.YOUR CHOICES IN THIS CASE ARE EITHER TAURUS,MUSTANG,PROBE,ESCORT,EXCURSION,EXPEDITION,E XPLORER,WINDSTAR,F-SERIES, AND WHAT EVER CARS THEY HAVE MADE IN THE PAST,OR FORD EUROPE,JAPAN AND OTHER COUNTRY THAT MAKE FORD CARS.NOT JAGUAR OR VOLVO OR OTHER CAR COMPANY OWNED BY FORD.
WITH CHEVY YOUR CHOICES ARE CHEVY VEHICLES,NOT INCLUDING GEO.
NOW I SURE AS HELL HOPE YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT IM TRYING TO SAY NOW.
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