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Old 02-14-2005, 04:09 PM   #16
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Re: Swedish Rally

Why do you say that 1viadrft? I haven't seen the coverage yet, so don't know what Petter may have said.
Solberg only lost about 10 seconds on the stage passing Gronholm's wreck. Most of that could have been due to him throttling back 'cause the battle was won, Martin being several minutes behind.
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I can't believe Marcus would deliberately block anyone, he's not that type of competitor.
Plus, I have seen frame-by-frame photo footage of the encounter and Marcus was as far off the road as possible considering his steering was shattered when Petter approached.
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Until I saw the damage I thought he was trying to block him.
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Old 02-15-2005, 10:35 AM   #19
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Re: Swedish Rally

Solberg qouted..." I was a little pissed off he didn't move..." Petter actually had to finally pull off onto the shoulder and pass him. Who really knows if it was on purpose or not. It just seemed that way...
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Who really knows if it was on purpose or not. It just seemed that way...

Could you drive a car with this kind of damage?



Seriously, could you explain how you get a car with damage like that to move in ANY direction, especially over ice and snow?
I'm pretty certain Marcus wasn't steering the car in Petter's path.

At the end of the day, it's not like it cost Petter the rally.

Man, I'm not even a Marcus fan and you're annoying me with your accusation.
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Old 02-16-2005, 09:34 AM   #21
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Re: Swedish Rally

Judging by the sig and the amount of time you spend with us over in the Subaru forums, I'd guess you're either a Solberg or Hirvonnen (sp?) fan. :-)
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Old 02-16-2005, 01:56 PM   #22
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Could you drive a car with this kind of damage?



Seriously, could you explain how you get a car with damage like that to move in ANY direction, especially over ice and snow?
I'm pretty certain Marcus wasn't steering the car in Petter's path.

At the end of the day, it's not like it cost Petter the rally.

Man, I'm not even a Marcus fan and you're annoying me with your accusation.
That's just it... Marcus should have stopped the car and let Petter pass! Marcus' "attempt" to finish the stage in his damaged Pug consisted of his car fish-tailing in both directions of the road which stopped Petter fro passing. I'm not accussing anyone and if you find me annoying... hey, that's on you. I merely am commenting on what I observed. If Gronholm was such a good sport, he would have realized he could not get to the finish in his car's condition. He should have pulled it over way before. Yeah... Petter won and all. But how would you feel if you were in that situation? On the brink of winning the raly? Anything can go wrong and it's all over. That was proved by Loeb and Gronholm in this raly. In rally... it's not over until it's over.
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Re: Swedish Rally

I gotta side with Marcus on this one, and I'm a Solberg fan (part of why I bought a WRX). If my car breaks in the middle of the race and I still have even the slimmest chance of finishing in the points, I'm going to take it, especially if I'm a perennial points contender like Gronholm.
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Re: Swedish Rally

How would I feel if I was in Solberg's place? I'd be woopin' and hollerin'! Hell man I just won a WRC rally! Nothing better than to see your opposition crack under the pressure.

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Re: Swedish Rally

Like I said... it doesn't really matter... Solberg won! Just thought I would point out what I observed.

Congrats to Petter and Subaru!
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Re: Swedish Rally

Finally saw the highlights package from Sweden and Gronholm was all over the road in front of Solberg after his roll. I know the Peugeot does not have very good vision to the rear and can only hope that was the reason. Eventually, after a few corners Gonholm pulled right off to the side, stopped and let the Subaru past. Coulda been nasty, Solberg was swearing and carrying on. Sounded like Phil Mills was telling Solberg to stay off the brakes - so they wouldn't slide onto the Peugeot?

Given the condition of the car, Gronholm must have known that once he stopped he was toast. With plenty of manufacturers points on offer if only he could finish and jerry rig something to service, he had to give it a go. Once he stopped and let Solberg through the show was over.
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