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Old 11-08-2003, 04:13 PM   #1
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my list

i made i small list on my own.
i will edit this list to keep it updated.
with peloton's help i will ad gtr's as well

XP1 - destroyed in Namibia, burried @ genesis.
XP2 - destroyed during MIRA testing, perhaps repaired.
XP3 - given to Gordon Murray
XP4 - Larry Blair
XP5 - McLaren, residing in the Park Lane showroom.
#001 - whereabouts unknown, reported to be in greater europe
#002 - HDF - unknown - can be seen in several road test movies license plate:I3 MAC
#003 - Ron Dennis - dunnow if it still is.
#004 - ?
#005 - ?
#006 - ?
#007 - Frank Selldorff - can be seen in showroom of TMS, cheapest F1, selldorff is at least 3rd owner, second one (afawk) bought it for 380.00 GBP on an auction.
#008 - ?
#009 - ?
#010 - ?
#011 - HDF - sold through Christies for about 600.000 GBP, owner unknown
#012 - possably Seth Neiman's
#013 - ?
#014 - Benny Caiola, ex-sultan.
#015 - Jay Leno
#016 - For sale at Schaefer Automobile in Germany. this means this is NOT the car that was believed to be George Harrison's.
#017 - ?
#018 - ?
#019 - ?
#020 - ?
#021 - ?
#022 - Wyclef Jean - illegally in US, polished rims, probably legalised in the meantime.
#023 - ?
#024 - Jim Clark, former Netscape CEO.
#025 - ?
#028 - Clifford Meltzer
#029 - ?
#031 - ?
#033 - ?
#036 - ?
#037 - Peter Manelis - has a window banner but smaller than Carl Beal's
#038 - Dan Kennedy - one of the most photographed cars around, kandy orange. mymics Yquem. also check: http://www.mclarenforsale.com/ this website is fake, it's not for #039 - ?
#040 - ?
#042 - Carl Beal - big window banner, can be seen on lots of calender photographs.
#043 - ?
#044 - Herb Chambers'
#045 - Laurence Strohl - CEO Hilfiger - owner of the mont tremblant circuit.
#046 - ?
#047 - For sale @ Taylor and Crawley (David Clark). ???
#048 - ?
#049 - For sale @ Taylor and Crawley (David Clark). ???
#050 - ?
#051 - Tom Meissner's - green F1, now for sale at KS Autohandels GmbH
#052 - ?
#053 - ?
#054F1GT - Black, no photo's seen ever, probably with the Sultan.
#055 - Ralph Lauren - perhaps with High Mirrors.
#056XPGT - Green, in the Factory. rumour has it that this car is for sale for a price of 1 million GBP
#057 - ?
#058F1GT - In Japan, resides in the collection of a gentleman who also owns an F1 and an LM
#059 - ?
#060 - ?
#061 - Rowan Atkinson - Was crashed, but repaired.
#062 - Ralph Lauren - perhaps with High Mirrors.
#063 - ?
#064 - ?
#065 - ex-Park Lane car, sold to unknown owner after complete rebuild.
#066 - ?
#067 - Larry Ellison
#068 - Frank Selldorff - Sold through duncan hamilton, but Selldorff found out he couldn't import the car so he then bought 007 on an auction. In America?
#069 - HDF - ?
#070 - resides in japan, no other info
#071 - Ex Chris Dawes - can be seen in DA, has high mirrors, Chris sale.
dawes totalled a car, killing himself and two others. that was not his own car, which car it was is unknown. Unknown what happened to this car as well. was seen in holland by a friend of mine, it was on a trailer, towed by a nissan patrol gr, probably with german plates, in a town called 'hattem' (lots of rich people)
#072 - HDF - ex Gonzalez family, sold through Motorcars Int'l to a mr Dahms in mullheim germany.
#073 - HDF - sold and on its way to america
#074 - Elon Musk
#075 - Aziz Ojjeh - Yquem, and last car ever build.
LM1 - Sultan.
LM2 - Sultan/japan.
LM3 - Frank Selldorff - no details needed innit?
LM4 - Sultan.
LM5 - Sultan/japan.
In the very likely case you have anything to improve upon my list, leave a note and i'll edit this one.

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Old 11-08-2003, 04:27 PM   #2
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I think it's better if we just make notes and then you can edit the original as you see fit.

Lawrence Stroll's (note my previous incorrect spelling) F1 is not a former Petrik car. #045 was sold by Newport Autosport and then Motorcars Intl, it's current location/owner is unknown.

How certain are you that #002 is Murray Walker's?? I've never heard his name associated with F1 ownership. I'd love to hear more. Car has HDF Kit now btw.

Here's what I have to add:

#012 - possibly Seth Neimann's - still working to confirm

#014 - Benny Caiola - New York

#024 - Jim Clark - California - former Netscape CEO

#044 - Herb Chambers - Massachusetts

#051 - Tom Meissner's green F1 - now for sale at that one showroom

#072 - Gonzales family - Texas - later sold through Motorcars Intl - location/owner unknown

I guess you don't care about the GTRs? No big deal - we don't know the history on very many of them once they stopped racing.

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Old 11-08-2003, 04:31 PM   #3
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Murray Walker rated it as the "best car ever" on Topgear last season. I think the range rover was the eventual winner but Walker drove and argued the Mclaren as the best ever.
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Old 11-08-2003, 04:34 PM   #4
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I think it's the greatest car ever as well - that doesn't make me an owner though.

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Old 11-08-2003, 04:35 PM   #5
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XP1 - destroyed in Namibia
XP2 - destroyed during MIRA testing
XP3 - crashed by bernd pichetsrieder, unknown whether totalled or not
XP4 - Larry Blair
XP5 - McLaren
#001 - whereabouts unknown, reported to be in greater europe
#002 - Murray Walker (can be seen in several movies) license plate:I3 MAC
#003 - Ron Dennis, dunnow if it still is.
#004 - ?
#005 - ?
#006 - ?
#007 - Frank Selldorf, can be seen in showroom of TMS
#008 - ?
#009 - ?
#010 - ?
#011 - sold through Christies for about 600.000 GBP, owner unknown
#012 - Possably Seth Neiman's
#013 - ?
#014 - Benny Caiola
#015 - Jay Leno
#016 - ?
#017 - ?
#018 - ?
#019 - ?
#020 - ?
#021 - ?
#022 - Wyclef Jean, illegally in US (?), polished rims
#023 - ?
#024 - Jim Clark - California - former Netscape CEO
#025 - ?
#028 - ?
#029 - ?
#031 - ?
#033 - ?
#036 - ?
#037 - Peter Manelis. has a window banner but smaller than Carl Beal's
#038 - Dan Kennedy. one of the most photographed cars around, kandy orange. mymics Yquem. perhaps sold. also check: http://www.mclarenforsale.com/
#039 - ?
#040 - ?
#042 - Carl Beal, big window banner, can be seen on lots of calender photographs.
#043 - ?
#044 - Herb Chambers
#045 - Lawrence Strohl (CEO Hilfiger) #045 was sold by Newport Autosport and then Motorcars Intl, it's current location/owner is unknown.
#046 - ?
#047 - For sale @ Taylor and Crawley (David Clark). ???
#048 - ?
#049 - For sale @ Taylor and Crawley (David Clark). ???
#050 - ?
#051 - Tom Meissner's green F1 - now for sale at ks autohandels gmbh - http://www.mobile.de/cgi-bin/homepag...&partnerHead=1
#052 - ?
#053 - ?
#054F1GT - Black, no photo's seen ever.
#055 - Tommy Hilfiger, perhaps with High Mirrors.
#056XPGT - Green, in the Factory. rumour has it that this car is for sale for a price of 1 million GBP
#057 - ?
#058F1GT - In Japan, resides in the collection of a gentleman who also owns an F1 and an LM
#059 - ?
#060 - ?
#061 - Rowan Atkinson. Was crashed, but repaired.
#062 - ?
#063 - ?
#064 - ?
#065 - Park Lane car. undergoes a full rebuild and will then be sold. has delivery mileage, so will be quite expensive. probably sold already.
#066 - ?
#067 - Elon Musk. Crashed but then repaired. Ex Gerd Petrik.
#068 - Frank Selldorff. Sold through duncan hamilton, but Selldorff found out he couldn't import the car so he then bought 007. In America?
#069 - in U.S. Customs.
#070 - ?
#071 - Ex Chris Dawes. can be seen in DA, has high mirrors, Chris dawes totalled a car, killing himself and two others. that was not his own car, which car it was is unknown. Unknown what happened to this car as well. was seen in holland by a friend of mine, it was on a trailer, towed by a nissan patrol gr, probably with german plates, in a town called 'hattem' (lots of rich people)
#072 - HDF kit, Gonzales family - Texas - later sold through Motorcars Intl - location/owner unknown
#073 - 2nd of december for sale @ christies' jack barclay showroom
#074 - Ralph Lauren. Perhaps with high mirrors.
#075 - Yquem, and last car ever build. Aziz Ojjeh.

Thought i read that somewhere, when the car was on top gear and 5th gear... could be wrong though.
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Old 11-08-2003, 04:42 PM   #6
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You can just edit your original post - you don't have to keep posting the entire list.

One more btw-

#028 - Clifford Meltzer - red - formerly in Japan - now in California

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Old 11-08-2003, 05:07 PM   #7
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Murray Walker does not own an F1. I seen the film he made campaigned for the F1 to be voted the greatest car ever on top gear, and he certainly didn't look like an owner. I recognise the guy that did the track driving in the film, but can't put a name to the face (i think he's a racing driver).

I'm pretty sure XP2 was rebuilt, read the Fate of XPs thread for more info.
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Old 11-08-2003, 06:41 PM   #8
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Is that Tiff Needell you are talking about?
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#69 - no longer with US customs. Has been exported.
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Old 11-08-2003, 06:44 PM   #10
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Peloton, if you are willing to share the details you have on the GTRs, I would love to know where they are.
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wyclef's is here legally
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no it wasn't tiff. He left top gear and the bbc and works for five now.
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Minor edit - 075 belongs to Mansour Ojjeh, not Aziz. Aziz Ojjeh used to own 011.
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there were 2 owners of 011 before the christies auction
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Old 11-09-2003, 12:53 PM   #15
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Tiff Needel really really wishes he had enough money to afford a McLaren F1. Unlike that bafoon Jeremy Clarkson, Tiff truly appreciates the cars for what they are and would love to have one.

BTW: Maarten - this is an excellent list so far once you clean it up. Nearly half the road cars are accounted for.

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