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10-07-2003, 08:33 AM | #1 | |
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where is bugatti from ?
i looked up in many websites some told me that bugatti was german other italian and french i need a real answer pls reply
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10-16-2003, 05:47 PM | #2 | |
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Re: where is bugatti from ?
To the best of my knowledge Bugatti was established in Italy (Ettore (sp?) Bugatti was italian) and then later moved to France. Usually it's considered a French company but in terms of heritage it's Italian.
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10-25-2003, 07:20 AM | #3 | |
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Ettore was born in Italy (Brescia area). As a teenager, he worked for German and French car companies (De Dion, Peugeot) and established his factory in Molsheim. Molsheim has been German property, but after WW I Molsheim became french. Bugatti is regarded a French company, Ettore preferred to speak french, and many racing cars of his factory were painted blue, the traditional french racing colour.
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11-12-2003, 12:58 AM | #4 | |
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Re: where is bugatti from ?
Actually, that blue color is not originally the French racing color, but rather the color of Ettore's wife's pack of Gaulouios cigarettes.
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11-21-2003, 09:37 AM | #5 | |
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Re: where is bugatti from ?
1909 Bugatti set up office in Molsheim in Alsace 12 months later the first Bugatti was on the road Type 13. He was the expert in saddlery and leather work as well as cabinetry. He was also a little eccentric and had shoes made up with individual toes. He lived near his factory and had 6 kids from 2 marriages and loved hroses, had a stable full and also a distillery. He lived like a royal in style. The biggest Bugatti was the Royale 31 and was 4.57 m wheelbase with a 300 continuous HP engine at only 1700rpm a 13 litre with 3 valves per cylinder.
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11-29-2003, 06:45 PM | #6 | |
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Bugatti is an Italian origin Automotive Manufacturer.
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12-09-2003, 07:38 AM | #7 | |
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For the new Bugatti company: A Bugatti company has existed in Italy, and they built the EB110.
Volkwagen purchased the brand name. They are now building a factory (probably ready now) in Molsheim, France. Another detail: remarks on the drawings Ettore Bugatti made, are all in French. |
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The EB112 was used as a design prototype for the EB118 and the later EB218 limo. The Veyron is a real Bugatti! there are no VW parts nothing contrary to Lamborghini which is really being bastardized from Audi! VW bought Bugatti and left themwith free hands to create the ultimate sports car of the 00 decade! |
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05-03-2004, 09:25 PM | #10 | |
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Re: where is bugatti from ?
The Bugatti engine is not entirely unique. Some engine parts ARE based on VW parts.
The Lamborghini Murcielago is almost entirely of Automobili Lamborghini design. The Gallardo does use some Audi-based parts. It's hardly "bastardized," though. |
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10-12-2004, 09:30 PM | #12 | |
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Re: Re: where is bugatti from ?
Ok Everyone STTTTTOOOOOOOOOOOOOPPPPPP, A couple of days ago I passed over this forum coming on plane trip back from Rome. Everyone but a select few have got the whole buggati history/story wrong, but thats alright because I'll fill you in.
On Sept. 15, 1881 Ettore Arco Isidoro or better known as Ettore Bugatti was born in Brescia, Milan, Italy. Although Italian, with many family roots in Milan, Ettore founded the Bugatti company in Molsheim, in the Alsace region of France. His creations were fabulously Engineered but vastly expensive, and production on all of his cars never really Kicked off compared to other world manufacturers. There were many attempts to revive the name but all had failed, until a canny Italian man named Romano Artioli (not Artiolly) stepped into the arena. Romano rekindled the Bugatti magic in spectacular fashion but ultimatly the dream proved over ambitious and it ended up in bankruptcy. The plan was grand, a state-of-the-art factory was Built in nothern Italy it was named the avantgarde Fatory. Romano hired some of the industries best like Paolo Stanzani as technical Director and Marcello Gandini as designer both of whom were effectivly fired later on. Anyway they were going to built a mid-engined supercar respectivly the EB110 which was named after Ettore and the Bugatti name (hence EB) and the car was to be launched on the 110th aniversary of his birth (Hence 110). The outrageous All Aluminium bodied supercar kept the traditional horseshoe grill but it was a very small part of the whole front grill itself. But hidden away under the cars radical body was an amazing 3.5 litre V12 fitted with no less than 4 turbochargers and no more than 60 valves spread over all 12 cylinder heads developing a modest 535 Brake horsepower but is was highly efficient and remarkably reliable. With a speacialized four wheel drive system and many other features this car went extremely fast and handled extremely well. But Unfourtunatly By the time the Bugatti was launched, the supercar sales boom of the 1980's with the Revoulutionary Porsche 959 and the sexy Ferrari 288 GTO it was well and truly over. The price of the Bugatti was a walloping US$486,000 and then Bugatti / Romano produced the EB110SS which developed 611 BHP and had a top speed of 356 K/ph instead of 341 K/ph but it was also another US$93,000 more than the normal EB110. In the End Romano Became to Ambitious, He bought Lotus from GM and told Ital Design to make a four door super saloon (sedan) called the EB112 but they stopped work on the project because Ital Design were claiming lack of payment. In 1995 The showcase factory lay deserted due to the Bankruptcy and it is not known for sure how many cars were produced; Artioli claimed 154 including the one built for Micheal Shumacher. Today Volkswagen Motor group have bought the rights to the bugatti name and they are producing the Veyron 16/4 which will probably be the fastest real production car on earth ( despite having the Swiss company Orca producing the C113 that claims to do 0-60 m/ph in 2.9 seconds as well). They have also produced a "super saloon concept" the EB218 which is a 6.25 Litre AWD V18 (which I think someone may have already mentioned). I hope this has solved everyones problems. If you ever travel to Italy be sure to visit the Avantgarde Factory because it is truly spectacular and also visit the italian marques factorys like Ferrari, Lamborghini etc ohh and the Fiat complex at Turin it has a racetrack on the buildings Roof. PS The 16/4 Veyron has a Full VW motor and part of the Design is contributed by VW where another part to contracted designers, and their is no Bugatti that is seprate from VW so just to correct some people the whole project is pretty much VW and VW did not Let bugatti "Free Hands" Because Beleive it or not Bugatti Is VW. |
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Re: where is bugatti from ?
Sorry about spelling errors got to catch a boat to Phillip Island from Aussi Mainland to test drive a Brand new Aston Martin DB9 and Porsche GT3, So excited.
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10-13-2004, 11:08 PM | #14 | |
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It wasn't the spelling errors (or the long-winded way of saying "Ettore's Bugatti was French, Artioli's was Italian, VW's is French") that bothered me. The EB118 was a four-door sedan (saloon) and it wasn't exactly a "V18" because it had three banks of 6-cylinders each. The EB218 was a 2-door version of the EB118 (which, itself, was an evolution of the EB112). These two were followed by a third concept (giving up the obvious EB318 to prevent problems with BMW) which was a Lamborghini-based 2-seater named 18/3 Chiron (still powered by the 6255cc W18). The fourth in the series of VW-built concepts was the 18/4 Veyron. With the problems associated with the 18-cylinder engine, the production version of the Veyron is the 16/4, referring to its 16-cylinder engine (now in two banks of 15-degree V8s). I've done a little research on the history of "modern" Bugattis. |
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Re: where is bugatti from ?
uhh i was on wikipedia and i read that its origins are french but currently its german but i did not read anywhere that it was italian
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