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05-18-2003, 10:54 PM | #61 | ||
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To get the basic jist of it, look to the top, where no cost is spared. That's where you'll get the zero-compromise equipment, or what's best. Not for the money, not for reliability, but for pure performance.
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05-19-2003, 12:04 AM | #62 | ||
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If x-drilled rotors are banned from motorsports events, it's because they aren't safe, not because they are better. Plain and simple, they WILL crack under hard and sever duty use, that's a proven fact almost any rotor manufacture will tell you, even the ones that make them. Look at any racing division (meaning NASCAR, IRL, SCCA, etc...) and if they don't use smooth faced blank rotors, then they use slotted, but never x-drilled. If I'm incorrect on this, point me to something that shows/says otherwise.
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05-19-2003, 01:06 AM | #63 | ||
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SilverY2KCivic, Well said, m8.
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05-19-2003, 01:39 AM | #64 | ||
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On the reversed slots subject, I emailed Power Slot about it, so I'll definitely post back what they tell me about that.
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05-19-2003, 01:59 AM | #65 | |
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well when you buy brembo rotors online at tirerack.com they say that the slotted are for street/track and the cross drilled are for street/highway. so i would assume they have cross drilled because of the blistering speeds those cars can get up to. and i have seen track cars in mags and they all have slotted. so i guess the slotted are better for TRACK driving. you don't see race cars with blanks
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05-19-2003, 02:26 AM | #66 | ||
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05-19-2003, 02:55 PM | #67 | ||
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Research, use your knowledge and apply it to what is best for what you intend for your car. Just don't look at racing pics, and think thats what I will do. It goes a lot deeper than that.
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05-19-2003, 06:07 PM | #68 | ||
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And cross drilled rotors aren't used in racing because they're banned. For a reason.
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05-19-2003, 06:08 PM | #69 | ||
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I trust the people at Porsche to really know their shit. If they believe cross-drilled rotors are better, they'll use them.
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05-19-2003, 07:18 PM | #70 | ||
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ANY brake manufacture will tell you x-drilled are not for track use, or severe duty use. That's just common sense that drilling a hole in something is going to weaken it. Don't have links the Ferrari bit, but it's in a mag that I have somewhere around here, R&T or C&D, one of those two. I have links however to prove of why x-drilled rotors basically suck, do you have proof and links to show otherwise? I'll bet you never knew that 1-piece rotors are terrible at doing their job than compared to 2-piece rotors where you bolt the actual disc to the top hat like SkylineUSA's brakes because the disk needs room to expand with heat seperate from the hat, don't believe me, maybe the gentleman that has revolutionized brakes for the auto industry can convince you, read it up!
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05-20-2003, 10:47 AM | #71 | |
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SilverY2KCivic,
Good read, Thanks.
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05-20-2003, 12:31 PM | #72 | ||
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05-20-2003, 04:55 PM | #73 | ||
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And the reason we don't see cross drilling in lower-priced cars is because it's prohibitively expensive to properly cross drill a set of rotors. You may see "brembo cross-drilled" but unless they're cross drilled by Brembo, they're just swiss cheese brakes and will crack. And 2 piece rotors are obviously better. There's no loss of contact patch and it makes way for rotor expansion. Audi uses a similar system (albeit cross drilled as well) in some of their cars, a "halo" type brake rotor that has loose connections between the central part of the rotor and the swept surface. And if you're trying to make yourself sound smarter, try not spelling thermodynamics wrong. And I've taken extensive physics and thermodynamics as well.
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05-20-2003, 06:55 PM | #74 | ||
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05-20-2003, 07:47 PM | #75 | |
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Increase rotor surface area that comes in contact with the brake pads.
Vent that surface area, so that more heat can be taken from the pad & metal to the air. Ta-da!
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