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View Poll Results: Which car would you put your money on?
1996 Toyota Supra 700WHP+ 9 45.00%
2003 Mitsubishi Lancer 550AWHP+ 1 5.00%
2003 Ford Mustang SVT Cobra 640WHP+ 6 30.00%
2002 BMW M3 450WHP+ 4 20.00%
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Old 05-23-2004, 03:36 AM   #1
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The Battle

You have $500 and you want to place a bet on a race, but before you even consider to bet any money, you need to look over and get more information on each car.

The first car you look over is a 1996 Toyota Supra, first thing you notice is the HKS front mounted intercooler and you find out that this Supra is equipped with a HKS T51R single turbo. This turbo can make huge power. This Supra has a long list of HKS parts, including BOV, VPC, 272 Cams, Exhaust, and Boost Controller. The car also has RT Down Pipe, PHR 5/8 Satin Fuel Rail and 850cc Seimand Injectors. The list goes on for this Supra, which is also rolling on 18 inch Volk SE 37s and Nitto Tires. You’ve seen this Supra before, and know it’s making some where between 700WHP-800WHP and easily hits 10s all day at a drag strip.

The next car you check out is a 2003 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution. You notice that this Evolution has some serious work done to it. You hearing rumors that this Evolution may be the fastest and quickest one in the USA. The front mounted intercooler has been replaced with a big Greddy front mounted intercooler and intercooler piping. You check under the hood and there’s a Greddy T67 25G Turbo waiting to spool. The car is also equipped with HKS Racing Suction Kit, HKS 272 Cams, HKS Adjustable Cam Gears Tannabe Ultra Medalion Exhaust and Tannabe Turbine Tube Down Pipe, Greddy Boost Controller, Greddy BOV, Greddy 600cc Injectors, AEM EMS ECU, Fidanza Light Weight Clutch, HKS GD Max Clutch and more. You now see why this car may be the fastest Evolution in the USA, EVOs with less modifications have layed down 450AWHP to 500AWHP and run low 11s and high 10s, this EVO could be making more than 550AWHP and 10 second 1/4 mile slips.

Now you set your sites on a 2003 Ford Mustang SVT Cobra. Stock these cars come equipped with a supercharged 8-Cylinder making well over 300WHP. You start a conversation with the owner and find out this car is no where near stock and the stock supercharger has been replaced with a Kenne Bell Supercharger and Kenne Bell Pulley. The engine management is taken care of by a Diablo Chip. Stock air filter has been replaced with a K&N air filter. Magna Flow X-Pipe with High Flow Cats and a Magna Flow Exhaust replace the stock unit. For extra spark, there is a MSD Ignition System with NGK Iriduim Spark Plugs. Also this car has 55Lb Fuel Injectors from Apten and a RAM 900 Clutch. What does all this mean, well the owner tells you 648WHP and consistent 10s in the 1/4 mile.

Last car you check and possibly the wild card is a 2002 BMW M3. It’s the wild card because it’s not known just how much power or how fast it is, this car also has the least amount of modifications, but it could still be lethal. First off you notice that this M3 is supercharged, with Active Autowerke C38 Supercharger. This car also has GruppeM Titanium Exhaust System, GruppeM Ramcharger Intake, and Conforti Shark Injector Engine Management. Not a lot, but maybe enough to push this M3 over 450WHP.

So who would you bet on, who do you think would win? This comparison is different, it’s an attempt to see how cars stack up to each other when tuned. If you know tuning, you should know that the car with the more power doesn’t always win.

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Old 05-23-2004, 03:53 AM   #2
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This is a tough choice for me, for all the cars would be really fast. I'm favoring the Supra and Cobra more because it is a 1/2 mile race, but I also know that when an EVO is tuned it can gain alot of top end power and easily hang with the Supra and Cobra. Also an EVO recently ran a 10.9@132MPH and I believe that car was just shy of 500AWHP, a 550AWHP+ EVO would be a mid to low 10 second car. So that's my choice.
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I'd bet on the supra.
it probably won't pull quite as much as the cobra, but it'll probably have a better, faster launch.

oh well, it probably depends on the driver. a supra with a T51 and 850cc injectors and on the other side the V8.
hard decision, the longer I think about it, I won't bet/race beforce I saw both cars launching

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Re: The Battle

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responding your own thread already? thats funny!!
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Old 05-24-2004, 04:06 AM   #6
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I always choose the American V8 in a drag race.
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Re: The Battle

^What he said. Although on the other hand, the Mitsu would get the best launch I would think, if the Supra or Cobra spins/bogs too bad out of the hole they won't catch it, my money's still on the Cobra however. Either way this sounds like the goddamn fast and the furious, get this shit on tape.
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Re: The Battle

i would go with the supra because it does have a lot of high-end power. but then again the cobra was made for dragging. and then again, the evo has awd so it would get a great launch. so after thinking, it is hard to see which one would win.
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responding your own thread already? thats funny!!
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Well my bad, guess I thought I'd do something different than the old what do you think is better ENZO or Carrera GT comparisons.
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the supra definitly will get the win. its alot more aero dynamic then a cobra is. also with such a large single turbo conversion it will have monster top end. the combination of the 3

1: more aero dynamic ( its known that to go double the speed you need 8 times the hp depending on the frontal area of the vehicle and the co efficient of drag of the car ) so the supra has this part down.

2: more hp. which helps even more in the top end.

3: power delievery of the a large single turbo vs. a linear power band of a super charger

the supra's making that kind of power has been known to take out super charged vipers on the highway and twin turbo 5.0's on the highway. almost nothing can top a supra's high end. since this is no ordinary 1/4 mile drag they will approach speeds of around 160+ mph. the Cobra will take the lead on till around 80mph that is when the supra will finally hit full boost in 3rd gear. then the supra should walk the cobra all the way to 160-170mph.

there are also videos floating around with a 650whp cobra vs. a 550 whp Z06 vette and the vette took it on the highend. same reason the vette is more aerodynamic and is lighter. all though the supra is heavier then the cobra. its more sleek and plus its got around 100 more whp.

the supra will definitly win this.
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Re: The Battle

i think i'd go with whatever vin diesel is driving...
if he's not there, then whatever tyrese has...
if he's not there...
i'm goin for Spilner!
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i think i'd go with whatever vin diesel is driving...
if he's not there, then whatever tyrese has...
if he's not there...
i'm goin for Spilner!
Funny? Sorry if you don't have the knowledge to type something informative and opinionated on this discussion.
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Re: The Battle

I'm really curious??? Every Comparison we have someone always brings up Supra and Top-end, so I'd like to know just what it is that makes this car the appointed God of top-end??? I've seen em they're not that areodynamic, they are heavy, they have Turbo so-what, a lot of other cars have it, or other FI, or are just all-motor? I think that "top-end" is actually an illusion created by lack of "low-end" due to this thing called Turbo lag.
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that is exactly it. to compensate for the lack of low end the top end of that car is incredible. its also quit sleek. ( not as sleek as a vette, but waaay more sleeker then a cobra ) if you want to see the supra's top end in action look for some of walser's videos. where it shows him destroying 900cc bikes, stock and modded. he also took out a hyabusa from a roll, and a slightly modded hyabusa. if you have no clue what a hyabusa is, its the fastest bike you can buy in the states, and it can do 190mph stock. the supra pulled on them from 70mph quit easily. also the supra's can take out twin turbo stangs and once again super charged vipers. those videos are all over the web. try to look for them.
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