Monaco Gp is schumacher gonna win?

[ales]

Huh??? I thought I have quite a bit of credit, even said he was amazing on cold tyres??? I just voiced my opinion why the plan you described would not have worked in the given circumstances.

[crayzayjay]

Originally Posted by freakray

is it feasible to believe that JPM was conspiring to get the pass in on cold tyres and get a few quicker laps on MS to maybe not only try to unlap himself, but actually close the gap on some of the runners ahead of him?

Disclaimer: Believe it or not, im not saying what im about to say because Herr Schumacher was out in front. If whoever reads it chooses to interpret it as "no one should be allowed to race schumi", dont bother replying.

Anyway. Ray, if that is indeed what Juan Pablo was trying to do, isnt it cheeky (to say the least) and highly risky to attempt to pass the race leader under such circumstances (not for position, but to unlap yourself) in a race such as Monaco where overtaking is nigh on impossible?

[freakray]

Yes it is cheeky, but we already know that JPM is a risk taker.

[crayzayjay]

Ok. Forget this particular incident for a minute. Are you happy seeing fast guys in lapped cars try to unlap themselves in similar circumstances (SC) in the future?

[freakray]

In all honesty Jay, if a driver can unlap himself fairly and without taking unecessary risk, I see no problem with it.

Hypothetical situation:
Rubens loses front and rear wing on opening lap and cuts down a tire.
He limps into the pits to get new wings and a tire change, in the meantime several slower cars lap him, he then exits the pits and begins to unlap himself throughout the course of the race.

Do you see a problem with that?
Or should he stay a lap down because, according to some people's theory, he's a lap down and no longer in the race?

Obviously JPM took a risk and it cost both him and MS finishing the race, but that was Sunday and is in the past, what is all the bickering going to change?

EDIT: Spelling

[crayzayjay]

Originally Posted by freakray

In all honesty Jay, if a driver can unlap himself fairly and without taking unecessary risk, I see no problem with it.

Hypothetical situation:
Rubens...

That's cool, I'm with you on your first statement & the hypothetical scenario. I just think pulling that kind of stunt on a SC scenario and at a 'race track' like Monaco is somewhat reckless.

Originally Posted by freakray

what is all the bickering going to change?

The bickering doesnt change anything, but where would the fun be if everyone agreed on everything?

[jcsaleen]

This is like an aim convo through posts lol!

[RallyRaider]

Stuff this trivial banter (I claim victory for the forces of good and fairness). There are important moves afoot in the WRC, to the Rally Forum!

[ales]

You can claim the win for the blided haters for whom every incident involving Schumacher is automatically, whatever the evidence or testimonials, his fault. Congratulations, you earned it.

[jcsaleen]

Well I'd have to say I Honestly as a ferrari fan dont think schumi would have cam back and won the race just for the fact that its MONACO the most intense race of the seoson in my prespective. Ultrafast turns 1 inch away from the wall and the whole world watching u.

[RallyRaider]

Originally Posted by ales

You can claim the win for the blided haters for whom every incident involving Schumacher is automatically, whatever the evidence or testimonials, his fault. Congratulations, you earned it.

Err, why would I do that? All I have ever done in this thread is try and counter your assumption that Montoya was automatically in the wrong. Are you saying I blame Schumacher? If so you are furthering your habit of being wrong. On the other hand if all you are after is the last word then go ahead...

[ales]

Thanks. Just so you know, my first reaction was that Schumacher had a problem either in his head or with his car, then I actually looked at the facts and formed a diffeernt opinion.

[NSX-R-SSJ20K]

JPM is full of shit and a hypocrite

[ales]

LOL Yeah, well....

I quite liked his appearance at the press conference on Thursday, he said pretty much the right things and seemed genuinely upset by what happened. Sounded sincere, so kudos for that.