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Old 04-27-2002, 01:17 PM   #16
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Polygon:

The V-10 that is in Dodge trucks have absolutely no interchangeable parts. They are completely different engines. Don't even compare the two.

The new engine is a refined version of the gen 2 engne. Intake and exhaust are much wider open. As you all probably know these engines are very underrated (in terms of power). Don't be surprised to see a 550 HP version of the engine when the Coupe version comes out (while getting 14 around town and 23 mpg on highway).

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Old 04-30-2002, 12:49 PM   #17
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I knew that some of the parts were not interchangeable, but I didn't know that none of the parts were. Don't they at least use the same block? I don't know, I guess you do learn something new everyday.
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Old 04-30-2002, 01:09 PM   #18
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No the V-10 truck and the Gen 2 Vipers do not share the same block. The Viper block is aluminum and the truck is cast iron. Both are 90 degree V-10's. That is about all that they have in common.

The configurations for cooling, oiling and performance for a truck engine is VERY different from what you do with an aluminum racing engine. Viper engines are built by Arrow Racing. I know this first hand because I just had my engine completely rebuilt by them. The engine in the Viper is capable of taking the Snake to 192 mph at 6,000 rpm. The truck engine would self destruct long before this.

This is the kind of stuff that is spread around by competitors. I hope that this clarifies the differences. Don't spread this kind of stuff around, because it is not true.

On the other hand, this SRT-10 Ram is the real deal. It has the entire drivetrain of the SRT-10 Viper. It also shares the Brembo brakes that are on the Viper. This truck will go down in hot rodding history, because it's the kind of thing that only tuners dream of. This is a factory issued vehicle. Keep in mind that the cost of modifications for this truck will be extremely expensive in comparison to the rest of the truck market.

I would personally get this truck for my garage (to sit next to my Snake) before buying an SRT-10 Viper. JMO.

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Old 05-01-2002, 11:23 AM   #19
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Well, that is interesting to hear, I did not know that. Now I feel ignorant, but at least you've helped me fix that. Thanks for the info Brad.

And I would rather have the SRT Ram as well.
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Old 05-28-2002, 06:42 PM   #20
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Lightbulb WANT A SUGGESTION

Does anyone have any idea approx when this truck might hit the market?
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Old 05-28-2002, 07:01 PM   #21
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as far as I have found out, it is supposed to hit the market mid 03 model year... so it should be somewhere between Jan, and March 03.

I can't wait to see one on the road though..... there are WAY too many 454SS's and there are 5 Gen 1 Lightinings, and about 10-15 GenII Lightnings.... I wanna see one hit our small little town and start beatin some ass.

I think we also have 3 Vipers (2 RT10's 1 GTS) too many foxbody mustangs to mention (those little bastards are EVERYWHERE you look), mustang GT's all over the place, and probably 20 Cobras, I KNOW that there is 1 Roush Mustang, and 1 Cobra R, but I don't know of anymore....

I do live in a small town, but we have the most milionaires per swuare mile of anywhere in the US.... we also comsume more Pepsi products, and bologna than any other place in the US.

well I thought that was some interesting, (eventhough it is STUPID) info
hope I get a few laughs out of it at least
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Old 05-30-2002, 10:43 PM   #22
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SRT-10 Ram Truck

I have heard that this truck will be in the showrooms in late summer (like the Vipers). Production has already begun on these vehicles.

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Old 05-30-2002, 11:28 PM   #23
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Here Is A Truck That I Hope That DC Would Build...

I have never considered myself a truck person, but I have always loved this one. Now if they would only put a Viper engine in this one, I would be in heaven...

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FUTURE BUZZ: POWER WAGON
DAKOTA / DURANGO

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The awesome Dodge Power concept made its debut at the North American International Auto Show in January of 1999. Since then I've received a few letters a day from readers wondering when the production version will be available.

There's been a ton of Buzz surrounding the big truck over the last couple years. The early speculation was that it was a preview of the direction Dodge was considering for the next Ram (DR). Later I heard Buzz that it would in-fact be the basis for a special heavy duty version of the next Ram.

The scenario was that Chrysler's underutilized Pillette Road Truck Assembly plant would be used to build both the Power Wagon and Dodge's full-sized SUV codenamed DH after the current B-van went out of production. The demise of the DH last fall seemed to put this one on hold.

After I reported that the heavy duty Ram would not resemble Power Wagon I received a flood of letters from disappointed readers. Since then I've been on a mission to track down exactly what's going on with this popular design. Here's the scoop.

Initially Chrysler considered two scenarios for a production Power Wagon. One was for it to be a special HD full-size pick-up along the lines of Ford's Super Duty (this is the vehicle that would have been built at Pillette). The second was to build it as a limited edition vehicle luxury truck along side the Viper and Prowler at Conner avenue plant. Both of these scenarios where eventually nixed.

So where does that leave the Power Wagon? The bad news is that Dodge will not build a full size truck based on this design. The good news is that th Power Wagon's design is the basis for the next generation Dakota and Durango (codenamed NB and HB).


Sources in Auburn hills confirm that Dodge gave us a solid preview of what both vehicles will look like when they unveiled the cool Power Box concept at the LA Auto Show this past January.

While the front end is resembles a scaled down Power Wagon, the design has been refined. The grill is slightly raked and has more of a trapezoidal shape. The hood is shorter and the side vents have been eliminated. The headlights are basically identical but they've smoothed out the front bumper to give the truck a sleeker look.

Overall it looks great, which is a good thing since this will be the front end of both the Dakota and Durango. The cabin of the Power Box is probably very close to what we'll see on the next Durango when it debuts in 2003 (as a 2004). The Buzz is that the cab and bed of the Dakota will be similar to the one on the Power Wagon concept. It should make its debut in 2004 as a 2005.

Both vehicles will have a longer wheelbases (approx. "10) but will retain the same basic outside dimensions as the current model. Interior space will be increased on both. The next Durango will have 24 percent more interior space than the current model and Durango and will be capable of seating eight. Backseats will fold flush into the rear cargo floor for increased space (with rear seats folded flat, the overall cargo length will be seven feet, which one foot more than in the Durango).

As previously reported, Dodge's new 5.7 liter HEMI V8 will be available in both the Durango and Dakota. The rest of the engine lineup will be the new 3.7 liter V6 and the second generation of the 4.7 liter V8. Some of the innovative features from the Power Box, including its "swing-slide" rear doors, "lift tail combo gate will probably make it into production.

While I'm sure that some of you are disappointed that we won't be seeing a production version of the original Power Wagon concept you should be glad that its striking design lives on. I'm especially happy to see that Dodge is taking such a bold direction with their next Durango and Dakota. It's exactly what they need to do with the replacements for two of the best looking vehicles on the road today.











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