Found a B18, non-vtec, worth it or not?

[98_AutoEX_Boy]

I've been searchin around a B16 or B18, either or just so I can get this sohc out my car and I finally came across a B18. Problem is the guy who is selling it said it was non-vtec. It has 90k on it and he is selling it for $700. Im stumped as to what to do so throw me some oppinions.

[civickiller]

it kind of depends on what b18 non vtec it is, b18a, b18b. what exactly do you get for that $700.

[kicker1_solo]

my friend put a B18B in his civic hatch, and it's pretty fast even without the vtec. I believe they go for about $1000, so $700 would be a good deal.

[jcrx]

I've seen the b18a1 go for less but that still is a good price provided it comes complete and isn't to torn up.

[civickiller]

i am getting a complete b18a swap for $1100. thats with everything i need to swap it into my 4thgen

i say its worth $1000 if you get engine tranny ecu, but if its just the engine, i wouldnt pay more than $600

[kicker1_solo]

which is it though, b18a or b18b?

[H4Bangin]

i gotta b18a1 forsale $800
axels
ecu
header
camgears
harness

everything!!

[mattyoung33]

is a B18 non-vtec fast? how much HP does it have?

[98_AutoEX_Boy]

To be honest with you, I'm not sure which model the b18 is, the guy just said that it was a non-vtec. I will call him and double check when I get some free time to do so.

With it being a non-vtec engine, which options are out there in upgrading the engine? There are turbo kits, superchargers...etc out there but they ask that the engine have the vortec. I guess the overall question is, since it isn't vtec, what am I losing besides the obvious hp loss?????

[mattyoung33]

is a non-vtec B18 fast???? how much HP??

[jcrx]

The b18a1 is if I remember right either 124hp or 134 something like that but I am not sure exactly,dude you just need to do some research because depending just goto a search engine and type in the engine code you'll get more than you wanna look at.............OK here it is see took a whole five minutes:
90-91 b18a1
b18b1=130bhp@6000 121lb-ft@5000 redline 6500
92-93 b18b1
b18a1=140hp@6300 121lb-ft@5000 redline 6500
94+ b18b1=142hp@6300 127lb-ft@5000 redline 6800
So this maynot be dead accurrate but it is resonably close site is www.hondaswap.com

[SkyNex721]

I think it's worth it. I have a b16 powered CRX. And I am selling it to buy a 5th gen hatch. Then I am gonna swap in a b18b. Even though the b16 has more hp, the b18 is better for FI. And that's what I'm going with. After I upgrade the internals, I am putting on a turbo.

I don't need no stinkin VTEC.

[civickiller]

Originally posted by 98_AutoEX_Boy

There are turbo kits, superchargers...etc out there but they ask that the engine have the vortec.

i dont get that. plz explain it.
as for the engine hp, hondaswap.com doesnt really know, they dont know the engine codes

90-91 b18a1 130hp
92-93 b18a1 140hp
94+ b18b 140hp or 142hp whatever.

you can do any thing to a nonvtec engine, that you could do to a vtec engine, cams, intake mani, tb, fuel rail, msd, etc...
with a b18a or b into a hatch, i think youll run mid 15s on street tires.
i personally dont think the b18a is a better engine for FI, i would go b18c or b16a.

[zEXycivc]

the ls motor(b18a/b) is the perfect motor for a turbo cuz it has asuch a low compression ratio my frien jus ran a 12.39 in a 95 civic coupe on the 10 with a ls/ t3/t4 turbo on 11 psi, but if u really want vtec u can alwaqys get a bi6 or b18c1/5 (integra gsr/type r) head and do the ls/vtec conversion and that motor is more powereful than the gsr. peace:smoka:

[jcrx]

I understand that hondaswap probably doesn't have perfect information,but it is a good reference point.I have yet to see a motor that in 90-94 made 130hp make the same power 8-12 years later anyway.Wear and tear,I seriously doubt my siRII is still producing the 170 it started with in 93,but I don't have a dyno available.In order to achieve the original hp you generaly have to go inside and freshen up or replace internals.Even SCC's eg civic made around 130(if I am not mistaken with the dx exhaust).Even with the bolt ons I don't think it hit peak original numbers.All I am trying to say is hp figures contain so many variables that it is hard to tell someone that this is the motor you want cuz they could go buy a b18c5 that looks immmaculate on the outside but is suffering powerloss and they're wondering why Joe Schmoe's b16 is blowin him away.