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i think that with the stage 2 mopar upgrade, some technical goodies, and an awd system the srt-4 would be a good match for the evo and sti.
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1. Honda Civic (It's the most popular in a range of cars I hate that are underpowered, slow, and with poor handling. Everybody says they're bullet-proof, but they have common problems that people have learned to ignore because of what the magazines feed them about what build quality should be about.)
2. Cadillac Escalade (It's a big bling-mobile that people use to show off their money. There's no reason for a 6L motor because the rest of the car obviously wasn't designed for acceleration. It's just a waste to cover up for such weight.) 3. The new VW Beetle. It's just a FWD Golf, and it has nothing of the "folk's wagon" feel of a cheap, functional car. It's trying too hard to compete with more expensive models, losing its character in the process. 4. Mazda MPV. It has no power, and the front seats are the most uncomfortable pieces of furniture that I've ever used in my life. If you take the seats out and put anything in it (like back when I was moving into a dorm), you have to totally floor it to have any chance of highway merging. 5. Chevy Aveo. It was GM's sorry attempt to make a car as cheap as the Koreans do. GM has to realize that those engineers didn't come from the fast food culture of throwing out stuff after using it once.
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And by that criticizm you should also not like the Honda Fit, or Toyota Yaris, which are both really popular right now...At least in Canada...we think smaller
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i dont know on what planet the civic is unreliable, casuse here on earth it will outlast most cars on the road. not to mention the civic si is fairly quick and handles pretty good.
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07-30-2006, 03:12 PM | #81 | |
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one of the civic's main strongpoints is its mpg. and they're a very reliable car (my gf has one) just not stellar when it comes to performance. throwing a wing and a WAI on it doesnt make it a race car like fast and the furious has lead so many ignorant ppl to believe.
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yea, blame the people and the movie, not the car.
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07-31-2006, 10:26 AM | #84 | |
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I think the Civic is overpriced. Let's compare the MSRPs for base models. Wouldn't you agree that these are comparable models? It's not like I'm throwing the Kia Rio, the Chevy Aveo, or the Hyundai Accent into the mix.
Honda Civic - $14 760 Toyota Corolla - $14 105 Hyundai Elantra - $13 865 Chevrolet Cobalt - $13 590 Kia Spectra - $13 475 Saturn ION - $12 490 The Saturn might be the lowest here due to "no haggle" pricing.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GM_Daewoo and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_Aveo I've driven it, and I still say the car sucks. It would have been 10 times more fun to drive with a slightly lower center of gravity and a little less weight up front (or more weight in the back).
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07-31-2006, 12:00 PM | #86 | |
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If you do notice that out of the cars you listed the most reliable are the most expensive. Seriously because a common prolem you consider is the shifter doesnt feel like its attached to anything. WTF, ive seen bigger problems with other cars, that are more common and work out to be a bigger problem. No matter what you say the point is the civic/corolla are 2 of the most reliable cars ever made, in fact if i can find the video of the civic that being run with water in the crankcase that seriously wont die. I highly doubt you could do that with a kia, or a hyundai.
ANd saturns have had there nice list of problems in the past and now. And a side note you do knoe that gm uses a honda motor in one of there smaller suvs and i believe saturn uses it to. And when your talking reliability ALL cars have there problems, and civic seem to more of a function problem than mechanical. And mechanical problems are what more people look at. So in agreeing with you no car is perfect, not even a $600k ferrari, lambo is free from defects.
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Shoot i once had a 93 civic ex that thing got the best mpg and was pretty reliable until it overheated and there went the reliability, but it had over 200K and not once messed up the yrs i drove it. Although it could have used more Hp it was slooowwwwww but hey i was getting 30+ mpg so i wasnt complaining at all Heck i wish i had another one.
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When you stop to think that the sticker price of two or three cars can add up to a single engineer's salary, you realize that with the vast quantity of cars these companies are making, "engineering expertise" costs rather little. I know nobody will agree with me when I say this, but I'll say it anyway: It's obvious to me that the Civic is sold with higher profit margins than these other cars. Look at GM's Saturn ION: The company is going to hell, and the Spring Hill, TN plant where the cars are made drastically cut its production. I think the ION is being killed in favor of a rebadged Astra.
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you think that GM equivilant cars not costing as much as a honda civic is the reason why they are going to hell? has it ever occured to you that the civic is simply worth the extra money and the equivilant GM cars aren't? i also guess you don't like the new mini then. or the golf. or bmw 1 series. or audi a3. £18,000 for a focus st? £16,000 for a renault clio? if the honda civic is overpriced, then those cars must be absolute rip-offs.
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