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Old 05-08-2004, 11:35 AM   #1
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Porsche(s) In 'Le Mans' Movie

Hi all,

I'm on a project to do all the important car of this movie.

I'm on the 917k Gulf n°20 :
http://www.hlj.com/scripts/hljpage.cgi?FUJ12175

i'll order these one :
http://www.fishermodels.com/main.php...3Fcat%3D243997
and
http://www.fishermodels.com/main.php...3Fcat%3D243997

but, before the race and in the very beginning of the movie, Steve McQueen arrives in a Porche 911, can anyone tell me the exact model of the 911 and some indication on a near model from any brand ?

Tanx a lot in advance to all of you.
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Old 05-08-2004, 12:14 PM   #2
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Re: Porsche(s) In 'Le Mans' Movie

I haven't seen Le Mans in a long time, but isn't it a 1970 Porsche 911 S?
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Old 05-08-2004, 12:26 PM   #3
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Levincer,
you know the "Porsche 917" Steve drove in the movie was actually a rebodied Lola...and the movie was filmed with a GT-40 with a camera mounted where the "hood" used to be, right in front of the driver and on the centerline. As for the Porsche he drove, let me check my DVD and I'll try and confirm it for you.

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Re: Porsche(s) In 'Le Mans' Movie

I believe it's a black 911S
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Re: Porsche(s) In 'Le Mans' Movie

Not entirely correct Bill. I believe Steve McQueen (or rather his production company) actually bought a 917K and painted it up as a double of the Siffert/Redman No.20 car. The sadly now defunct 917archive.com had information on which chassis were involved. The car Steve's character crashed however, was a Lola chassis fitted with 917K lookalike bodywork.

Camera car was also a Porsche, 908 maybe? It was actually entered in the race and finished quite respectably, despite the need to stop frequently to reload the film. I wish I had a copy of Le Mans on DVD, but I don't think there is a region 4 version relaesed.
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Re: Re: Porsche(s) In 'Le Mans' Movie

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Not entirely correct Bill. I believe Steve McQueen (or rather his production company) actually bought a 917K and painted it up as a double of the Siffert/Redman No.20 car. The sadly now defunct 917archive.com had information on which chassis were involved. The car Steve's character crashed however, was a Lola chassis fitted with 917K lookalike bodywork.

Camera car was also a Porsche, 908 maybe? It was actually entered in the race and finished quite respectably, despite the need to stop frequently to reload the film. I wish I had a copy of Le Mans on DVD, but I don't think there is a region 4 version relaesed.
Hmm...just goes to show we never really know anymore!

You may be right about the crashed car sequence being the Lola, but IIRC, Chad McQueen said that the Gulf 917 he drove in the filming was not a true Porsche, but rather the Lola when he made the "Making of Le Mans" 1 hour show for Speedvision...shrug

As for the Camera car. I've got pictures of it from Porsche Excellence magazine where they talked about the movie and they show the GT40 with the camera mounted where the "hood" usually goes. The author stated that they had a trigger on the steering wheel to begin and end filming and they would just go out and get race footage. Possibly they used more than 1 camera car...

Us motorsport modelers are a sad, sorry lot..;-)>

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Tanx to u all for the 917k precision but for the first porsche in the movie, bill is it a 911S 70' ?

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917k n°23 and 917lh Early Hippy n°3 in the movie

917k n°23 and 917lh Early Hippy n°3 in the movie

@ 33mn 46s i just saw these 2 cars ? the n°23 was the real winner fot the 70' Le Mans but the N°3 early Hippy very strange to saw it in 1970.

What do you think ?

For the McQueen Porsche in the beginning it's a 911s Coupe 70, sure.
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One of the camera cars was indeed a dark blue 908 spyder with a huge nose mounted camera setup. I believe that car finished 7th and it is actually seen once in the movie coming down in front of the main grandstand straight. I think the 911 was dark green not black. One of Fujimi's enthusiast series 911's would be your best basis for a model.
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Old 05-08-2004, 09:38 PM   #10
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Re: Porsche(s) In 'Le Mans' Movie

I'm planning a project like this also, so I got a video tape of the movie. My favorite scenes are at the beginning of the race when the white #25 917LH is kicking ass.

My 908 is the first of the cars I planned to get. Its only shown in a couple of glimpses at the beginning of the movie. I have the Gulf 917K kit and the white #25 917LH car already. The 911 at the beginning of the movie is a black 911S. I recently got Fujimi's Enthusiast 911s (and the 911R, its not the same car). The Ferrari 512S Coda Lunga (by Fisher) is next.

The camera car could have been a contender for the win if they didnt have to stop to reload the cameras so often.

Keep us informed about the progress of your project.
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Hi,

It's a real pleasure to be on a project near your mate.

The beginning scene are really great, i can advise u to get the dvd of the movie, pictures and sound are really improved.

I saw a yellow 917k in the beginning scene, it was the number 8 or 9 in the race, not his number but his rank. I wasn't able yet to identify the sponsors but i'm working on it.

I'm thinking to do the 3 917 gulf too as they're differents in color scheme and aero, the n°20, 21 and 22.

Thanks for the advice on the 911s.
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Re: Re: Porsche(s) In 'Le Mans' Movie

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The 911 at the beginning of the movie is a black 911S. I recently got Fujimi's Enthusiast 911s (and the 911R, its not the same car).
are u talking about this one :
http://www.upgrademotoring.com/model...207[1].jpg

cause i got some difficulties to find it on my regular website like hlj for example. Is it an 'easy to find' kit or a rare one in your opinion ?
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If you want to make at least all successful Porsches of the Le Mans Race 1970, please don´t forget:

917K driven by Herrmann/Attwood (we all know this one)
917L driven by Larrousse/Kauhsen (finished 2nd)
908 driven by Dr. Marko/Lins (finished 3rd and won its classification)
914/6 driven by Ballot-Lena/Chaseuil (won its classification)

The car driven by McQueen in the beginning is sure a 911S. Only problem is that the 911S was produced with different engines around 1970:

1967 911S with 2 litres 160bhp (901/02 engine)
1968 911S with 2 litres 170bhp (901/10 engine)
1969 911S with 2.2 litres 180bhp (911/01 engine)
1970 911S with 2.3 litres 240bhp (911/20 engine)
1970 911S with 2.4 litres 260bhp (911/21 engine)

I don´t whether they also look different, but in my opinion this movie needs car credits in the end!!!!!!

However I scanned a picture of a 1967 Porsche 911S from my Porsche book (please excuse the bad quality) and also took a snap shot of the Le Mans 911S from the movie.





No you can compare, whether you need to adjust the model you´re buying in order to get the McQueen 911S. In my opinion the front chrome head light rings look thicker than the ones on the 1967 Porsche 911S! What do you think?
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I think the 69' 911s is the best match and the fujimi kit will be ok.

As we're some new, good and very good modelers interested in this project the best will be to create a thread when we'll have, let see, 5 models from the movie, what do u all think ?
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Re: Porsche(s) In 'Le Mans' Movie

The car in the movie is a USA/Canada spec car and has different headlamp surrounds which are thicker. These may be in the Fujimi kit, I can't rememeber. Don't forget the heavier rubber bumper trim. Kurz.
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