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Car Audio Do you live in your car? Then you need to be able to listen to some high-quality music.
View Poll Results: What is the Best Car Audio Brand?
Alpine 51 30.36%
Kenwood 18 10.71%
Clarion 11 6.55%
Fusion 1 0.60%
Sony Xplod 9 5.36%
VDO Daytona 1 0.60%
Panasonic 3 1.79%
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Avalanche 1 0.60%
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Old 04-12-2005, 01:39 AM   #31
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Re: Your Car Audio System

No, I think you'll find that most people who know what they're doing with their system don't. Not that they're entirely useless, just that they have very few uses, some people use them how they should be used, but normally the people who have them simply got suckered into buying one by the local salesmen.
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Wow I wouldn't go so far as to say that spl is "dumb" I give those guys props for all the time they put into their cars just to gain even a single db, they're committed. But it seems to be the case that sq guys think that spl is dumb and spl guys think that sq is dumb, guess there's no happy medium....
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Old 04-12-2005, 09:08 AM   #33
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Re: Your Car Audio System

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has everyone got a capacitor in their car???
Hell no, biggest waste of money ever. Read about my electrical system on the previous page

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Wow I wouldn't go so far as to say that spl is "dumb" I give those guys props for all the time they put into their cars just to gain even a single db, they're committed. But it seems to be the case that sq guys think that spl is dumb and spl guys think that sq is dumb, guess there's no happy medium....
Yeah, read my system on the previous page...it's like...REALLY good SQ and REALLY Loud lol.

But I like SQL, I'm not going to compete SQ...at least not for a long time. I can easily switch out boxes, so I have a daily setup (18XXX) and I also have an SPL competition setup (15 Death Penalty).

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Wow I wouldn't go so far as to say that spl is "dumb" I give those guys props for all the time they put into their cars just to gain even a single db, they're committed. But it seems to be the case that sq guys think that spl is dumb and spl guys think that sq is dumb, guess there's no happy medium....
I just don't see the point personally. It's like an endless pit of money that you can't ever enjoy, the only enjoyment you get out of it is beating other people. It's a huge cock fight that no one can actually get any kind of happiness from without someone else losing. Do you think anyone would actually go to an SPL competition if there were no other competitors or spectators there that they could show off to? Now do you think anyone would go to a SQ competition where they could hear the judges thoughts and advice on how to improve, even if there were no other competitors or spectators there? Actually any type of sound competition is a cock fight, but at least when people leave a SQ competition they can actually enjoy listening to their system.
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I just don't see the point personally. It's like an endless pit of money that you can't ever enjoy, the only enjoyment you get out of it is beating other people. It's a huge cock fight that no one can actually get any kind of happiness from without someone else losing. Do you think anyone would actually go to an SPL competition if there were no other competitors or spectators there that they could show off to? Now do you think anyone would go to a SQ competition where they could hear the judges thoughts and advice on how to improve, even if there were no other competitors or spectators there? Actually any type of sound competition is a cock fight, but at least when people leave a SQ competition they can actually enjoy listening to their system.
Life itself is a giant cock fight, theres really no difference between the competitions. SPL is important to sound quality, but SPL competitions take it too far. SPL you will grow out of, SQ you grow into. If you value SQ now, you are enlightened. if you think you own with SPL, you will get many dtp tickets and eventually you will grow up.
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Life itself is a giant cock fight, theres really no difference between the competitions. SPL is important to sound quality, but SPL competitions take it too far. SPL you will grow out of, SQ you grow into. If you value SQ now, you are enlightened. if you think you own with SPL, you will get many dtp tickets and eventually you will grow up.
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sounds good, both of em...
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okay ppl my next question is why?
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why what?
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has everyone got a capacitor in their car???
yep 1.5F at the moment but will go with 5f bank soon.
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wouldn't a new alternator be cheaper??

or at least a new battery? How many amps can a capacitor hold in reserve anyway? I would guess like 3 or 4 per ferad. I can't remember exactly, but that seems about right to me. A battery can hold like 75 amps, and release it as fast as nessary, right? So, a newbie here is asking: why is a capacitor useful again?
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my bad didnt post the end of my reply the question was why do people spend thousands of dollars on sound systems when they proberly wont ever get their money back? to me its like something that just has to be done, but how about vry1 else?
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wouldn't a new alternator be cheaper??

or at least a new battery? How many amps can a capacitor hold in reserve anyway? I would guess like 3 or 4 per ferad. I can't remember exactly, but that seems about right to me. A battery can hold like 75 amps, and release it as fast as nessary, right? So, a newbie here is asking: why is a capacitor useful again?

In an unstable electrical system, they can spread out the load so the voltage drops less on a large draw. So instead of dropping say 2 volts for 1 second, it drops 1 volt for 2 seconds. Of course a new battery or better wiring will normally fix this anyway and is cheaper than a capacitor.

In a stable electrical system, they can respond faster to quick current demands than the alternator or battery. So if the amp needs say 30 extra amps of current instantly, the capacitor can provide it, and then very very soon there after the battery is able to finish its chemical reaction and supply enough current to both take over the draw and recharge the capacitor. If the rest of the electrical system isn't strong enough to handle the load by itself then adding a capacitor won't really do anything, it's only if the electrical system is plenty strong where adding a capacitor can help it respond quicker.
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my bad didnt post the end of my reply the question was why do people spend thousands of dollars on sound systems when they proberly wont ever get their money back? to me its like something that just has to be done, but how about vry1 else?
For me it's just a hobby/passion. Same reason why I have ~$1000 invested in headphones, and ~$1300 in home audio. I don't plan on getting any of it back and that's fine, I buy it because I love it. Everyone has their hobbies, for some people it's golf, for some it's landscaping, for some it's cars, for some it's drums/guitar/etc....the list goes on and on. Now personally I can't understand why someone would spend thousands of dollars per year on flowers and bushes for a garden, and they probably can't understand why I would spend $350 for an amp for my headphones.
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