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10-26-2002, 11:08 AM | #166 | |
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Now I would argue that the M3 interior looks like plastic as well, though I'd have to actually see one up and close to make a confirmation on that, looking at pictures doesn't exactly help much. I will say this, the interior surrounding the guages, the whole console and the rest, looked a little more "firm". Thats the only way to explain it I guess I can't think up another word. Still though, it appeared to me to just be "firm" plastic.
This article I was reading was nitpicking so much though about the Cobra just to make it look bad. They started complaining about how they didn't like the angle at which the 6 speed was at. They didn't really go into much about how it could compare to the other cars as far as performance, which is the most important aspect. They sounded like a bunch of old rich pussies. The Corvette and Viper comparison were almost just as bad, oh its too hot in the Viper even with the AC on boohoo, well the SRT-10 is a convertible genius, put the top down. Next time I'll know what to expect from an article from Motor Trend.
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07-26-2003, 03:22 AM | #167 | ||
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I have to agree. To many people complain about the viper and corvette. All i have to say is you can put the viper against alot of spots cars and it would smoke them, same goes for the corvette. If they dont like how hot it is then go get a bmw. If im going to go buy a sport car i want it to be fast. I dont care about the heat. As long as i can pool up next to most any sport car on the street and whoop them im happy |
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10-16-2003, 09:02 AM | #168 | |
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a ford pinto vs. GT40 sounds like a good race
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11-03-2003, 07:29 AM | #169 | ||
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Please take all the pix off! I hate scrolling through message boards and seeing this kinda stuff. Viper 10 has the limit as far as size for a pic.. and you've got 2 bigger than his. C'mon. Have respect. Plus The ford pinto vs gt40 thing. It's dumb, and you're taking up space for no reason. |
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11-13-2003, 10:06 AM | #170 | |
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A Viper can push more than 1000hp out of the engine. I have no doubt that they can also snug easily under 9 second quarters. But one thing I do bet is that after they ran their 9 second quarter, they take those drag radials off, and drive that baby home.
Just look at Lingenfelter, they produce 750+hp vettes as daily drivers. I believe the 427TT vette is boosted somwhere around 9psi. Some people look for the best reliability when modifing their automobile, and some don't. But that doesn't mean they are strictly restricted to these hp amounts. You could up the boost on a 427TT and be ridiculously fast, but then you sacrificing reliability and drivability. Which brings me back to the point of the Viper. Their's an immense power potential in that engine. |
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11-13-2003, 10:15 AM | #171 | |
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Who does Dodge and many other American car companies make such big engines with such an appaling horse power - CC ratio?
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11-13-2003, 05:27 PM | #172 | |
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The reasons why america's into big engines:
1) history.. we have a past with muscle. Look at the 442's the gto judge's.. wow 454 v8s? The viper hasn't only been marketed with the sports car moniquer, but also under the guise of a muscle car. 2) Reliablility of power. Yeah.. a four cylinder celica's pretty damned reliable. But when you boost it up to 500hp, your reliablility due to various forms of forced induction, and boring and possibly even nitrous oxide... these are all going to bring the reliability of the engine and drive train down. Forced induction (turbocharger/supercharger) will be adding more parts that can go wrong, and forcing more pressure on various engine components. When you bore out your engine there are various problems that can go wrong especially if you don't get a proper stroke.. and if your compression ratio's too much or too little. Adding nitrous... wow.. we don't even need to go into the problems with nitrous.. o-rings etc.. So now look at the viper's engine. 3) Torque. Generally speaking look at an engine's size vs it's torque to hp ratio. Ferrari's have wide bands but because of their engine sizes being small their torque bands don't start until higher rpms, vs the viper which starts at (don't quote me on this) around 750rpms. A lot of the times when we see decked out cars with 4 cylinders they don't have nearly the amount of torque as they do horsepower. But look at the viper and vette. The viper has 500hp and 505lb-ft of torque. that's a 1:1 ratio I crawled around supercar.net and the highest ratio for a supra I could find is 596 - 800hp. |
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11-14-2003, 11:18 PM | #173 | |
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Re: Viper vs GT40
The new GT40 will be $150k is what i've been hearing. There is a Top Gear video where they test drive the GT40 and he says that it's one of the best cars he's ever driven. Will be a very tough car to beat when it comes out and i cannot wait to see one!
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11-15-2003, 04:55 PM | #174 | |
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i really like the Viper and the GT40 but if these two cars race, i think the GT40 would have a better chance winning.
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