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Old 11-28-2014, 02:54 PM   #31
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i agree about the rothmans car being original. if you decide which car to model, i have the definitive book on the works escort rally cars, i can then check it out on the info in the book. it is also to be noted that many cars received new shells during their sometimes short careers, they could also have different arches for different events. confusing it is ! by the way i think it will be great whatever you decide to do with it. i have built a few of these kits, they always get comments when i display them.
Just received my Rally Giants book and according to Robson the '78 RAC winner although badged as SJN 830R was actually chassis STW 200R. I would appreciate any additional information you could provide for this car. It is the sister car to WTW 568S.

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I've taken the plunge and will attempt to correct the front fender flairs. At this point I have removed about 1mm from the overall width, square the top edge and improved the symmetry. I think they need to be more narrow still.





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Old 11-29-2014, 09:02 AM   #33
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After more work I was able to remove a total of 2mm (2 scale inches) from the overall width of the front wheel arch extensions.


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Old 11-29-2014, 11:14 AM   #34
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Very nice work so far. I have two of these to build, but I'm put off by the amount of work needed to make them good. I plan to build one as the British Airways car and one as the Andrews Heat for Hire, as driven by Russel Brookes. Look forward to following your work as you progress..
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Front arches look better!
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Just received my Rally Giants book and according to Robson the '78 RAC winner although badged as SJN 830R was actually chassis STW 200R. I would appreciate any additional information you could provide for this car. It is the sister car to WTW 568S.
Good luck trying to work out STW 200R. I believe Ford were playing with number plates because I have seen photos of STW 200R as follows and I am sure there are more photos out there

All the rear flares are smaller than the Esci/Revell model, they either just breach the body line or are lower than the body line.

'77 Safari - gravel spec - RHD - flares below rear body line
'77 RAC - gravel spec - RHD - flare below rear body line
'78 Scottish - gravel spec - RHD - flare below rear body line
'78 Alpine - tarmac spec LHD - flares above rear body line
'78 Ypres - tarmac spec LHD - flares above body line
'78 Burmah - gravel spec - RHD - flares above body line
'78 Cyprus - gravel spec - RHD - flares above rear body line
'79 Galway - tarmac spec - RHD - flares above rear body line
'79 Elba - gravel spec - RHD - flares above rear body line
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Very nice work so far. I have two of these to build, but I'm put off by the amount of work needed to make them good. I plan to build one as the British Airways car and one as the Andrews Heat for Hire, as driven by Russel Brookes. Look forward to following your work as you progress..
Thanks for following Steve and I hope you post your Escort builds.
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Good luck trying to work out STW 200R. I believe Ford were playing with number plates because I have seen photos of STW 200R as follows and I am sure there are more photos out there

All the rear flares are smaller than the Esci/Revell model, they either just breach the body line or are lower than the body line.

'77 Safari - gravel spec - RHD - flares below rear body line
'77 RAC - gravel spec - RHD - flare below rear body line
'78 Scottish - gravel spec - RHD - flare below rear body line
'78 Alpine - tarmac spec LHD - flares above rear body line
'78 Ypres - tarmac spec LHD - flares above body line
'78 Burmah - gravel spec - RHD - flares above body line
'78 Cyprus - gravel spec - RHD - flares above rear body line
'79 Galway - tarmac spec - RHD - flares above rear body line
'79 Elba - gravel spec - RHD - flares above rear body line
Thank you for the information. Yes they did play with the registration numbers moving them to different cars on occasion. In addition chassis were often fitted with new bodyshells after a crash or extensive damage. According the Robson POO 504R was reshelled (5) times!
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Front arches look better!
Thank you. I know they should be narrower still. However I was removing so much material I was getting concerned I would have nothing left to allow me to reattach the arches. I have removed the front arches from a 2nd body. I am using this body as my test mule. I might try to take those arches a little further.
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Some suspension pieces in progress.

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Re: Ford Escort RS1800

Big improvement on the arches .
The inquiry about SJN 830R was actually chassis STW 200R has come to a dead end for me at the moment.
There is no chassis number listed for SJN 830R but all other works cars chassis numbers are listed.
if appears that SJN 830R was an accumilation of parts which leaves it open to being anything.
There was a culture back then that escort Idenifications seemed to swap around and appear at will.
It's a mine field and without books like The Works Escort which had research done in detail we'd never know.

Personally if you have decals for an event or can get decals for an event , using any reference material you can find build the car as accurate as you can .( arches especially both front and back).

keep it up ..loving this thread.
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Re: Ford Escort RS1800

Work continuing on the chassis and suspension.



Reshaping the rear wheel arches to make them as small and narrow as possible without major surgery.



Did some subtle reshaping of the wheel rims but I really am not happy with them. Unfortunately I know of no good tarmac wheel/tire replacement.

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Wheel arches before



Wheel arches now

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Re: Ford Escort RS1800

Looking great!
For the wheels I've bought a couple of sets of RS Watanabe rims by Aoshima or Fujimi. They are VERY similar to the Minilites and might be a good alternative. I'll take a look during my next, future, Mk2 build.
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