Chevy vs Ford

[knightjp]

I posted something of a similar nature in another part of the forum (muscle cars)....
I asked who makes the better cars??? Chevy or Ford...

I'm trying to figure out whether I should go in for a Ford Mustang now, or wait for the new Camaro...

In terms of looks, my vote is with the Camaro... (especially after seeing transformers)

Obviously the better of the two would appeal to me.... not preference.

I'm looking at the answer in terms of:
Power & Handling
Reliablility & Maintenance
Comfort... etc...

Anyone out there that can help me decide???

[Moppie]

Gee, let me see, mass produced crap using 100 year old technology vs soon to be mass produced crap using 100 year old technology......

Yip, pretty tough call.

[knightjp]

Originally Posted by Moppie

Gee, let me see, mass produced crap using 100 year old technology vs soon to be mass produced crap using 100 year old technology......

Yip, pretty tough call.

Dude your comments are appreciated... but not agreed upon....

These companies made some of the greatest cars in the world.
Mustang, Camaro, Firebird, Chevelle, Impala, Caprice..... need I say more???

They invented stuff.... ABS, Airbags, etc...

[Moppie]

Originally Posted by knightjp

These companies made some of the greatest cars in the world.
Mustang, Camaro, Firebird, Chevelle, Impala, Caprice..... need I say more???

If they had produced them during the 50s, then sure, they would have been ground breaking. But, those are all cars that came out of the 60s and 70s, at a time when comparable cars else where in the world had things like independent suspension and disc brakes.

Originally Posted by knightjp

They invented stuff.... ABS, Airbags, etc...

You have heard of the Germans haven't you?

[knightjp]

Yeah I have heard of the germans....

So you don't like American Cars... big deal....

I so and I have a valid reason for it. I live in the Gulf and here temperatures reach heights of above 52 degrees Centigrade. Not a joke and cars here have to be able to withstand such heat. In the 80s to early 90s, all Euro-boxes had problems... including the big names like Mercedes and BMW with heating issues... (rubber parts weren't able to cope) and yes after 10 - 15 years, the Germans decided that cars coming here should meet up with special conditions, such the term "Middle East Specs" came into being.

Japanese cars had not much of a problem... they built their cars to withstand the heat and incase it doesn't, parts are cheap.

Now American cars could withstand the heat.... simply because its native to them. I know that certain parts of the US gets as hot as it does here and also at times gets so cold to below freezing. So they are able to withstand all kinds of whether...

Anyways... my question is for all those who like Amercian cars... Who makes them better??? Chevy or Ford???

[98BlackTransAm]

Power & Handling: Camaro
Reliablility & Maintenance: Camaro
Comfort... etc...: I havn't sat in the new camaro so I dunno about that one.

i believe they're both in the high 3,000 lbs range for curb weight, but the 6.0 ls2 puts out higher #'s to the wheels than the 4.6, and GM builds better trannies than ford.

so based on my opinions as well as your criteria i'm gonna have to say the new Camaro wins hands down.

[knightjp]

Originally Posted by 98BlackTransAm

Power & Handling: Camaro
Reliablility & Maintenance: Camaro
Comfort... etc...: I havn't sat in the new camaro so I dunno about that one.

i believe they're both in the high 3,000 lbs range for curb weight, but the 6.0 ls2 puts out higher #'s to the wheels than the 4.6, and GM builds better trannies than ford.

so based on my opinions as well as your criteria i'm gonna have to say the new Camaro wins hands down.

Thanks for the reply....

I read a comparison report online between a Camaro and a Mustang... The Mustang won.... hard to believe.

Looks - Camaro
Comfort - Mustang
Power - Camaro
Maintenance and Handling - equal
Good for Everyday use - Mustang

I would have to agree with you though.

however there is just one thing... my question was not about the Camaro and Mustang only. It was about the cars in general. Who makes the better cars??? Chevy or Ford

[98BlackTransAm]

if by "better cars" you mean reliability, definately chevy. Ford is known for being one of the least reliable manufacturers out there.

[sickcallawayc12]

Well Chevy is the better of the two of course.

However, neither brand makes good cars and both brands make pretty good trucks.

[98BlackTransAm]

Originally Posted by sickcallawayc12

Well Chevy is the better of the two of course.

However, neither brand makes good cars and both brands make pretty good trucks.

chevy makes good trucks, ford makes good truck (150 lightning)

[hotrod_chevyz]

Originally Posted by knightjp

Maintenance and Handling - equal

Wrong...

Handling: Camaro > Mustang ( i thought everybody knew this )
Maintenance: Camaro > Mustang ( due to cost of labor and parts )

[knightjp]

Its clear to see that there are more Chevy fans in the community than for Ford. And I'm guessing rightly so....
Chevys have proven to be more better than Fords in alot of ways.

[hotrod_chevyz]

Originally Posted by Moppie

If they had produced them during the 50s, then sure, they would have been ground breaking. But, those are all cars that came out of the 60s and 70s, at a time when comparable cars else where in the world had things like independent suspension and disc brakes.

I would like to know what cars compare to the ones mentioned that come from other countries. Im not saying our American cars are any better or worse, but i would like to see these cars that are so much better than our "crap".

BTW GM had both disc brakes and independant suspension available in early 60's.

Okay, back on topic....

Why are people so bent on liking one or the other? Most people that bad mouth certain brands havnt owned or even been in one long enough to make a good judgement.

Its okay to like both. No really.... Both GM and FORD make good cars. Yes, most are cheap and low quality, thats because the cheap low quality consumer. You get what you pay for, And with the right budget GM or FORD will hand you the keys to a car thats actually worth a damn.

Hop in a 67 vette w/427 and you will find they blow the doors off and drive circles around most supposed "performance" cars of yesterday AND today. With bolt on upgrades you can make one damn near unbeatable, i dont care what you have or what country it was made in.

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/1967-corvette1.htm

[knightjp]

Originally Posted by hotrod_chevyz

Its okay to like both. No really.... Both GM and FORD make good cars. Yes, most are cheap and low quality, thats because the cheap low quality consumer. You get what you pay for, And with the right budget GM or FORD will hand you the keys to a car thats actually worth a damn.

Hop in a 67 vette w/427 and you will find they blow the doors off and drive circles around most supposed "performance" cars of yesterday AND today. With bolt on upgrades you can make one damn near unbeatable, i dont care what you have or what country it was made in.

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/1967-corvette1.htm

Ur absolutely right dude... Everyone has their preferences and stuff...

Who makes them better between the two???

[Moppie]

Originally Posted by hotrod_chevyz

I would like to know what cars compare to the ones mentioned that come from other countries. Im not saying our American cars are any better or worse, but i would like to see these cars that are so much better than our "crap".

BTW GM had both disc brakes and independant suspension available in early 60's.

I'm referring to the Mustang and Camaro.
The Corvette was, and still is, in a totally different world.

I don't really think there is much from Europe to compare with the Mustang and the Camaro, largely because the Europeans tend to make cars that go around corners, aren't built from the spare parts bin and appeal to a more educated buyer. Or at least they did. Then they realised the average European car buyer cares about as much as the average American car buyer, and so they make cars like the VW golf.


But, if you want to compare:
How about the new Ford Mondeo, and the new ford Mustang.
The Mondeo is a class leader and uses a number of new technologies and design ideas.
The Mustang still uses the same suspension it did 40 years ago.