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[skln09]

what do you guys think about the 02`Jetta GLS 1.8T and the 03`Eclipse GTS? how do they respond to mods? are they worth the price (not that expensive, but when you're poor like me.... ) and how do they compare to the integra type R? thats all, thanks guys!Report Post | IP: Logged

[Jimster]

Um, an ITR? They're both left well behind by the ITR, the ITR is a legend, possibly the best FWD car ever made.

though the VW 1.8T has a big aftermarket, just watch out for the ignition coils though, VW North America refuse to issue a recall for them AFAIK.

But the Jetta'll be more reliable than an Eclipse, Mitsubishi = bottom barrel reliability from a bottom-barrel company.

[skln09]

yes ITRs are great but expensive i've been told to get a GSR instead, because of the compression ratios, what do you think?

[slideways...]

eclipse GTS is a heavy, slow 2door version of the galant

however it does have one saving grace. the engine.
it uses the same basic block as the 3000GT so can handle lots of boost. you will have to get turbo pistons and rods though but after that it is very turbofriendly.


the VW/Audi 1.8t is a fine engine for driving, but you will always want more top end power. the turbo is so small it functions more like a supercharger, providing lots of boost down low, basically 0 turbo lag, and very slow top end. the power/torque curves are very flat.


and yes, both cars are definitely NOT in the class with the integra type R

i would say they are not worth the $$$

go spend the same 18-20k on a practically new 2001 integra type R, turbo it with 6 psi and run 13s all day long

[slideways...]

additions: the 1.8T is quite tunable but requires LOTS of $$$ to get any real effect.

integra GSR is also better than both the VW and mitsu

what are your goals/purposes for this car? that would help a lot in determining the right one.

for instance, a 1991-1993 sentra SE-R is way cheaper than a GSR and only a half-baby step below it performance wise. actually id say even because the SR20 is soooo nice when turbo'd

[Zachp911]

Originally Posted by skln09

what do you guys think about the 02`Jetta GLS 1.8T and the 03`Eclipse GTS? how do they respond to mods? are they worth the price (not that expensive, but when you're poor like me.... ) and how do they compare to the integra type R? thats all, thanks guys!Report Post | IP: Logged

The Jetta and Eclipse are no where close in comparison with the Integra Type-R.

Go and look for a '98-'01 Integra GSR and put mods into that, it will be faster than both Eclipse and Jetta.

[BlackGT2000]

If you want a turbo go with the Jetta, if you don't get the Integra. The Jetta is already turbocharged so it would be easier to upgrade in that respect. The integra really isn't made for a turbo and for most people turbocharging a NA car isn't really an option. The integra was made to be NA. As for the Eclipse...Don't even bother with it if its the newer ones. They are nothing like the older ones. There isn't much you an do affordably with that car. For me I would vote the Jetta only because I think they are nicer. The integra is good but its older and don't have all the bells and whistles that the VW has.

[kman10587]

Want a turbo motor to make lots of power to go drag racing with? Get the Jetta 1.8T or GTI 1.8T. Want a lightweight, N/A car that handles incredibly well? Get the Integra Type R (or GS-R if you can't afford the Type R).

[skln09]

but still ITRs and GSRs can be tunned to have lots of power. I've seen GSRs kicking 410hp

[BlackGT2000]

Thats not really typical and its not really just a tune up. 410 HP out of an already tweaked motor is alot of work. It can be done but its not really practical.

[skln09]

yeah its all about the time and money you'll expend on the car. but just cause it handles great doesnt mean that it lacks power, rigth?

[kman10587]

Nah, I wouldn't say that the GS-R lacks power. And by the way, don't fall for the ricer myth of buying a GS-R, "slapping on" a turbo, and making 250 horsepower. If you "slap on" a turbo to a high-compression motor like that, not even taking into the account how it'll interact with the valve timing, you're going to destroy your engine very quickly. If you want a turbo Integra, your best bet is to just buy a cheap LS model and turbocharge that.

[skln09]

I didn't know that thanks for the input bro

[kman10587]

No problem. Integras really aren't made for big power. I dunno if you've ever seen a 400+ horsepower FWD car at the drag strip, but I have, and those things are crazy hard to launch properly. If, say, 200 horsepower is enough for you, though, the Integra GS-R can make that easily.

[skln09]

nah 200hp isn't enough, you know what is all about when it comes to rides, you're always looking for more.......what about the SRT-4?, its turbo'd and 215hp stock.