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Old 12-06-2004, 06:45 PM   #1
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V-35 GTR drivetrain

i read in an Australian car mag (MOTOR) that the new Skyline will have a unique chassis not based on the the Infiniti G35, it will be rear wheel drive with the front wheels only getting power when they need grip, but most shocking is that Nissan have decided to drop the ATESSA all wheel drive in favour of.... ELECTRIC MOTORS!!!!, one driving each front wheel, and it will only get a 7 speed sequential gearbox.
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i read in an Australian car mag (MOTOR) that the new Skyline will have a unique chassis not based on the the Infiniti G35,
Right. The G35 is pretty much identical to the current V35 Skyline. The V36 will be out next year on a new version of the FM platform. The GT-R launched one year later will be based around that.

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it will be rear wheel drive with the front wheels only getting power when they need grip, but most shocking is that Nissan have decided to drop the ATESSA all wheel drive in favour of.... ELECTRIC MOTORS!!!!, one driving each front wheel
Yep. It's a more practical and efficient layout when you think about it. With ATESSA-ETS you had the additional weight of a center differential and driveshafts to transfer power up front. Don't forget that these parts move, so rotational mass comes into play, raising weight further.

Nissan's electric motor system is e4wd. It's already being used on a few vehicles like the Cube and Tiida. Since the electric motors are only on the front wheels, additional weight is minimized. They are probably more responsive, too.
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Re: V-35 GTR drivetrain

That bullsh*t. If nissan decides to use electric motors on the new GT-R their making a horrible decision.
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That bullsh*t. If nissan decides to use electric motors on the new GT-R their making a horrible decision.
Actually, it is very true. It has been stated by nissan already, their plans for the next gtr include these changes. Know for a fact before you speak.
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If nissan decides to use electric motors on the new GT-R their making a horrible decision.
Care to explain why? The guys at Best Motoring(professional racers, y'know?) seem to think it's a great idea. Check out the volume 'Skyline GT-R: The Prodigy.'
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Re: V-35 GTR drivetrain

Because I don't like a 4WD drivetrain to really be a RWD setup with electric motors. If it were up to me, id make a true 4WD drivetrain.
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Old 03-26-2005, 11:03 AM   #7
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Re: V-35 GTR drivetrain

to me the electric motors are the stupidist idea evr its like he said make it a true awd not some hybrid i hate electric cars they suck and the new skyline should be like the old ones with ATESSA system or HICAS
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Re: V-35 GTR drivetrain

I will be towing a 1997 Nissaan P.U. that has an automatic transmission.
It will be towed with all 4 wheels on ground.
Do I need to disconect the drive shaft?
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Old 02-05-2006, 07:39 PM   #9
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WTF...You guys are flat-out retarded...They dont mean electric motors to power the wheels but to power the Atessa 4-Wheel Steering I wish people knew what atessa was...jesus.

Its going to be AWD/AWS for sure and it will be with a 6SPD MT thats all been released.
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Re: V-35 GTR drivetrain

doesn't having the electric motors mean that more power would be put to the ground since all the power from the gas engine will be fed to 2 wheels and not 4?
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doesn't having the electric motors mean that more power would be put to the ground since all the power from the gas engine will be fed to 2 wheels and not 4?
Exactly. The e4wd system will mean less drivetrain losses. It'll almost mean less drag during high speed runs, because the e4wd won't power the wheels unless you need it.

It's funny how people don't want this awesome, new technology. Heck, even the GT-R's target, the 997 Turbo, will get electronic awd.
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the 997 turbo has permanent awd, no "torque split". i believe that the 998 is to have a different awd, mainly cause the power will b up above 500hp, the most for a stock awd car(in full production).
as for the new technology fuck it, the old always worked. the electronic motors are going to be expensive as hell. y do u think that the upscale mercedes benz are not well liked by car mags. they tend to spend more time in a shop than on the rd. the wiring is so confusing that the mechanics or elec specialist doesnt know what to do. my aunt's lexus spent 6 months in a repair shop before it even hit 500miles. she turned the a/c on and moved the seat foward at the same time, and it shorted.
i say go with the proven technology, it's worked for porsche, ferrari and mclaren on their street cars. even if this tech was used on others cars, the two mentioned b4 are nowhere near the performance of the gtr.
even if it saved a few pounds, there are many ways of saving it somewhere else. seats, body, chassis, windows, engine, wheels, the average wheel on a high end supercar weighs 12lbs, the average wheel on a lower end sports coupe, like a supra, hey are 50lbs. do the math and multiply by 4. have no spare tire(use run flats). plus for every hundred pounds saved, 1/10 of second is taken off 0-60 and quater times, and lap times. for the 70g, u want performance from a performance coupe, i dnt care if the seats were racing seats with a seat cover over them, i'm not taking it on vacation.
the only reason i can see this being a really bad idea, it drains the battery on a defect. the good, it may make timing for splits even quiker than that of the r34
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Old 02-20-2007, 02:29 AM   #13
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Re: V-35 GTR drivetrain

Crazy Nissan. I didn't know they were using an electronic AWD system. That's freaky. I read the power output is supposed to be around 525 hp, just to have an advantage over all the other high performance production cars coming out in the next year or so. I was kind of surprised that Nissan didn't keep the RB26 in it, but I guess all things need changing once in a while.
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Re: V-35 GTR drivetrain

[quote=VQuick]Exactly. The e4wd system will mean less drivetrain losses. It'll almost mean less drag during high speed runs, because the e4wd won't power the wheels unless you need it.{\QUOTE]




Isn't that how the AWD system in the R34 worked? It was just rear wheel drive until the computer sensed wheel slip in the rear. Oh well, what ever it is, it will destroy any who oppose its power. Long live the GT-R!
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Old 02-20-2007, 10:54 AM   #15
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525 seems a lil much for a tt 6cyl. and it's jnot power that it lacks its aero
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