Lets slay some ricers!

[mikegee]

Originally Posted by dcatkin

2003 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution
POWERTRAIN/CHASSIS
Drivetrain layout Front engine, awd
Engine type Turbocharged I-4, cast-iron blk/alum head
Valve gear DOHC, 4 valves/cyl
Bore x stroke, in/mm 3.35x3.46/ 86.0x88.0
Displacement, ci/cc 122.0 / 1999
Compression ratio 8.8:1
Max horsepower @ rpm 271 @ 6500
Max torque @ rpm 273 @ 3500
Specific output, hp/liter 135.6
Power to weight, lb/hp 12.0
Redline, rpm 7000
Transmission 5-speed manual
Axle/final-drive ratios 4.53:1 / 3.26:1
Suspension, f;r MacPherson struts, anti-roll bar; multilink, coil springs, anti-roll bar
Brakes, f;r 12.7-in vented disc; 11.8-in vented disc, ABS
Wheels, f;r 17x8.0; 17x8.0, cast-spun aluminum
Tires, f;r 235/45ZR17; 235/45ZR17, Yokohama ADVAN A-046
DIMENSIONS
Wheelbase, in 103.3
Track, f;r, in 59.6; 59.6
Length, in 178.5
Width, in 69.7
Height, in 57.1
Curb weight, lb; f/r % 3263; 60/40
Fuel capacity, gal 14.0
CONSUMER INFO
Base price $28,987
Price as tested $30,062
EPA mpg, city/hwy 18/26

Once again, woohoo truly imperssive, I see your intellect is showing through. For all that hoopla you really diden't prove a damn thing. This really is a load of shit,I said I woulden't start up unless somebody brought it on again. I do believe that this has happened.

whatcha point?

[mikegee]

Originally Posted by Um...Nameless Dork

THE OLD ONE
would whoop ur ass.


THE NEW ONE
to me the gto is an import(made in australia) and its gay cause all they had to do to make it faster is put wider tires on the wheels, another reason why i dont like gm very much, but if i had the money id buy a gto and put bigger tires on it, and the gto was not made to compete with the evo it was made to get ppl into pontiac dealerships so lets leave it out of this.

isnt the new gto fast then the old one. i mean sure motor trend could be very wrong but they say that the new gto is even fast then the old judge.

[Jared_80]

Originally Posted by Um...Nameless Dork

ok ok we dont care about your side anymore this is just getting annoying.

It is only annoying because you know that I am right.

[Jared_80]

Originally Posted by dcatkin

Ok EVO-BOY, and I do mean boy. Did you acctually read any of the info that I gave you, or does it just pass in one eye and out the other, I've googled and read a bunch of info on your little rice waggon, and to this point I remain unimpressed. If this is intended to lean my favor to the garbage, I think your just a bit off, and it may be time for the rubber room. Obvously cannot read a damn word, A ZL1 is a factory car, and sold on the lots in 1969. You beloved J-spec EVO is also a factory custom. And it's curb weight is 3263 #, and this comes from motor trend. So keep arguing and I'll keep backing up American muscle. You say to each his own and then sprout this shit, just shut your pie hole.

How dumb can you be?!? Do you know that only 69 1969 ZL1s were ever made! Look it up yourself! That is a factory custom car stupid! While thousands of evos are made each year. (aka not factory custom) I think in America if you make more than 500 they are considerd a full production. Where is your defence now. Do you want to keep playing with words? I will shoot you down every time. GET A LIFE!

[Jared_80]

Plus you guys cannot compare speeds with drag slicks because they are NOT STREET LEGAL. We are talking about the fastest street cars remember.

[dcatkin]

Originally Posted by Jared_80

Plus you guys cannot compare speeds with drag slicks because they are NOT STREET LEGAL. We are talking about the fastest street cars remember.

Listen sunney

I don't care that you think you can win me in an argument about American musce, and I don't care about your dearly beloved EVOVIII J-Spec, I have read about it on the net enough to make me puke. Besides son you diden't win the argument, and just don't know it. It's called sutbborun, your opinion is always right, I'm comparing your little rice waggon to a 30 year old American muscle car. Yes it's does beat your EVO, and so does an L-88 Corvette, and A GTO judge, and a Buick GSX. I've sent you to sight after site, and you don't read any of the shit. I know it may be just a bit to hard for you to comprehend, but I did read a bunch of crap about your EVO, but I did it on my own, you diden't put up one shred of proof, or send me to a single sight that had specs on you wonderful little EVO, I found them all on my own, so once again put up or shut up. Besides I said I'm done playing your little game, I will not put up any more proof, or respond to you. I'm done.

[Jared_80]

Originally Posted by dcatkin

I don't care that you think you can win me in an argument about American musce, and I don't care about your dearly beloved EVOVIII J-Spec, I have read about it on the net enough to make me puke. Besides son you diden't win the argument, and just don't know it. It's called sutbborun, your opinion is always right, I'm comparing your little rice waggon to a 30 year old American muscle car. Yes it's does beat your EVO, and so does an L-88 Corvette, and A GTO judge, and a Buick GSX. I've sent you to sight after site, and you don't read any of the shit. I know it may be just a bit to hard for you to comprehend, but I did read a bunch of crap about your EVO, but I did it on my own, you diden't put up one shred of proof, or send me to a single sight that had specs on you wonderful little EVO, I found them all on my own, so once again put up or shut up.

I don't think that I can win an argument with you I KNOW that I can win an argument with you! Yes call me stubborn all you want we both know that I am right. Oh and your beloved L88 is also a factory custom 80 were made in 1968, and only 20 in 1967. And your GSX 1/4 mile is 14.4 www.fast-autos.net and the GTO Judge 1/4 is 13.9. Keep um coming I can do this all day! And just think that the evo is even beating muscle cars in there own turff, just put any muscle car in the evos turff (the slolom and cornering) and you loose every time. Don't quit yet I am loving this too much.

[Jared_80]

As far as my sources go just read any new MT and they will quote you the exact same numbers as I did. Put up or shut up yourself!

[dcatkin]

Originally Posted by Jared_80

I don't think that I can win an argument with you I KNOW that I can win an argument with you! Yes call me stubborn all you want we both know that I am right. Oh and your beloved L88 is also a factory custom 80 were made in 1968, and only 20 in 1967. And your GSX 1/4 mile is 14.4 www.fast-autos.net and the GTO Judge 1/4 is 13.9. Keep um coming I can do this all day! And just think that the evo is even beating muscle cars in there own turff, just put any muscle car in the evos turff (the slolom and cornering) and you loose every time. Don't quit yet I am loving this too much.

Jesus look

Look at your own list, where's your EVO. http://www.fast-autos.net/14mile.html

http://www.fast-autos.net/0to60.html

Here's the specs from your site, different from all the others again.

Price: $25,500
Miles Per Gallon: --/-- mpg
Curb Weight: 3087 lbs
Layout: Front-Engine/AWD
Transmission: 5-Speed Manual
Engine
Type: Turbocharged Inline-4
Displacement: 1997 cc
Horsepower: 276 bhp @ 6500 rpm
Torque: 283 lb-ft @ 3500 rpm
Redline: ---- rpm
Performance
0-60 mph: 4.5 sec
0-100 mph: 12.4 sec
Quarter Mile: 12.9 sec @ 106 mph
Skidpad: .95g
Top Speed: 144 mph
Braking, 60-0 mph: 123 ft
Slalom Speed: 65.8 mph

Corvette

And by BTW this is on street tires, with slicks it does 10.9.

Price: $8,700 (1969)
Miles Per Gallon: --/-- mpg
Curb Weight: 3091 lbs
Layout: Front-Engine/RWD
Transmission: 4-Speed Manual
Engine
Type: V8
Displacement: 6997 cc
Horsepower: 585 bhp @ 6600 rpm
Torque: --- lb-ft @ ---- rpm
Redline: ---- rpm
Performance
0-60 mph: 3.9 sec
0-100 mph: 9.2 sec
Quarter Mile: 12.1 sec @ 116 mph
Skidpad: .--g
Top Speed: est 200 mph
Braking, 60-0 mph: --- ft
Slalom Speed: --.- mph

Yenko Camaro

Price: $3,895 (1969)
Miles Per Gallon: --/-- mpg
Curb Weight: ---- lbs
Layout: Front-Engine/RWD
Transmission: 4-Speed Manual
Engine
Type: V8
Displacement: 7000 cc
Horsepower: 425 bhp @ ---- rpm
Torque: --- lb-ft @ ---- rpm
Redline: ---- rpm
Performance
0-60 mph: 3.8 sec
0-100 mph: 8.9 sec
Quarter Mile: 11.94 sec @ 115 mph
Skidpad: .--g
Top Speed: --- mph
Braking, 60-0 mph: --- ft
Slalom Speed: --.- mph

1970 Chevelle SS A 4000 # Car

Price: $-,---
Miles Per Gallon: --/-- mpg
Curb Weight: ---- lbs
Layout: Front-Engine/RWD
Transmission: 4-Speed Manual
Engine
Type: LS6 V8
Displacement: 7433 cc
Horsepower: 450 bhp @ 5600 rpm
Torque: 500 lb-ft @ 3600 rpm
Redline: ---- rpm
Performance
0-60 mph: 6.1 sec
0-100 mph: 13.5 sec
Quarter Mile: 13.7 sec @ 103 mph
Skidpad: .--g
Top Speed: --- mph
Braking, 60-0 mph: --- ft
Slalom Speed: --.- mph

1999 ZL1

Price: $---,---
Miles Per Gallon: --/-- mpg
Curb Weight: 3523 lbs
Layout: Front-Engine/RWD
Transmission: 5-Speed Manual
Engine
Type: V8
Displacement: 9504 cc
Horsepower: 770 bhp @ 6900 rpm
Torque: 683 lb-ft @ 5200 rpm
Redline: 7100 rpm
Performance
0-60 mph: 3.0 sec
0-100 mph: 6.8 sec
Quarter Mile: 9.55 sec @ 144 mph
Skidpad: .90g
Top Speed: --- mph
Braking, 0-60 mph: 127 ft
Slalom Speed: 66.3 mph

[Jared_80]

Originally Posted by dcatkin

Look at your own list, where's your EVO. http://www.fast-autos.net/14mile.html

http://www.fast-autos.net/0to60.html

Here's the specs from your site, different from all the others again.

Price: $25,500
Miles Per Gallon: --/-- mpg
Curb Weight: 3087 lbs
Layout: Front-Engine/AWD
Transmission: 5-Speed Manual
Engine
Type: Turbocharged Inline-4
Displacement: 1997 cc
Horsepower: 276 bhp @ 6500 rpm
Torque: 283 lb-ft @ 3500 rpm
Redline: ---- rpm
Performance
0-60 mph: 4.5 sec
0-100 mph: 12.4 sec
Quarter Mile: 12.9 sec @ 106 mph
Skidpad: .95g
Top Speed: 144 mph
Braking, 60-0 mph: 123 ft
Slalom Speed: 65.8 mph

I hate to break this to you but those look like the specs to the evo7 not the evo 8 but if you actualy knew what you were talking about you would know that. The US evo8 weighs 3268 not 3087. Duh. Do your homework and then come back to argue.

[dcatkin]

Originally Posted by Jared_80

I hate to break this to you but those look like the specs to the evo7 not the evo 8 but if you actualy knew what you were talking about you would know that. The US evo8 weighs 3268 not 3087. Duh. Do your homework and then come back to argue.

Gee it says EVO VIII, I tend to think that means 8. OOOPs sorry that is the EVO VII, they don't show the specs from you little car.
2002 Z06 Vette

Price: $49,905
Miles Per Gallon: 19/28 mpg
Curb Weight: 3118 lbs
Layout: Front-Engine/RWD
Transmission: 6-Speed Manual
Engine
Type: V8
Displacement: 5665 cc
Horsepower: 405 bhp @ 6000 rpm
Torque: 400 lb-ft @ 4800 rpm
Redline: 6500 rpm
Performance
0-60 mph: 4.0 sec
0-100 mph: 9.5 sec
Quarter Mile: 12.5 sec @ 115 mph
Skidpad: .99g
Top Speed: 171 mph
Braking, 60-0 mph: 104 ft
Slalom Speed: 70.3 mph

[Jared_80]

And by BTW this is on street tires, with slicks it does 10.9.

Price: $8,700 (1969)
Miles Per Gallon: --/-- mpg
Curb Weight: 3091 lbs
Layout: Front-Engine/RWD
Transmission: 4-Speed Manual
Engine
Type: V8
Displacement: 6997 cc
Horsepower: 585 bhp @ 6600 rpm
Torque: --- lb-ft @ ---- rpm
Redline: ---- rpm
Performance
0-60 mph: 3.9 sec
0-100 mph: 9.2 sec
Quarter Mile: 12.1 sec @ 116 mph
Skidpad: .--g
Top Speed: est 200 mph
Braking, 60-0 mph: --- ft
Slalom Speed: --.- mph[/quote]


Big whoopdedo, we are not counting factory costom cars because they are too rare and too expensive for the avrage person to afford. (FREE HINT if less than 500 a year were built they are factory custom) What part of that is hard for you to understand?

[dcatkin]

Originally Posted by Jared_80

And by BTW this is on street tires, with slicks it does 10.9.

Price: $8,700 (1969)
Miles Per Gallon: --/-- mpg
Curb Weight: 3091 lbs
Layout: Front-Engine/RWD
Transmission: 4-Speed Manual
Engine
Type: V8
Displacement: 6997 cc
Horsepower: 585 bhp @ 6600 rpm
Torque: --- lb-ft @ ---- rpm
Redline: ---- rpm
Performance
0-60 mph: 3.9 sec
0-100 mph: 9.2 sec
Quarter Mile: 12.1 sec @ 116 mph
Skidpad: .--g
Top Speed: est 200 mph
Braking, 60-0 mph: --- ft
Slalom Speed: --.- mph

Big whoopdedo, we are not counting factory costom cars because they are too rare and too expensive for the avrage person to afford. (FREE HINT if less than 500 a year were built they are factory custom) What part of that is hard for you to understand?

That doesn't matter, I'm proving a point and that point is that cars from the 60's beat your little rice waggon, and I did.

[Jared_80]

Uh what are you doing every one of theose cars is either much slower, or an extreamly expensive factory custom. What you cannot find a production muscle car that can take the evo? Please try again I am loving every second of this.

[Jared_80]

Originally Posted by dcatkin

That doesn't matter, I'm proving a point and that point is that cars from the 60's beat your little rice waggon, and I did.

Wow the stupidity is incrediable. Of course with an unlimited budget and drag slicks you can beat an afordiable reliable import in street trim. DUH That is not the point. I am saying that the Evo is the better proforming street car, that is what I have been saying all along, what world do you live in?