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Old 10-18-2009, 03:13 AM   #76
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Re: Jordan 191

Your work is so amazing, I actually start laughing out loud in disbelief while reading your updates

100% joy to watch your work
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Old 10-18-2009, 03:18 AM   #77
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Unbelievable. If you could mass-produce these as kits you would have an amazing detail market at your fingertips.
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Old 10-18-2009, 07:52 AM   #78
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Jay, you're bringing modeling arts to a whole new perspective.
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Old 10-18-2009, 06:40 PM   #79
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Re: Jordan 191

If it wasnt for the Plastic it would look like a 1:1 build!!! I cant wait to see what you do to the engine if youve spent so much time in detailing the suspension. Stunning Work!!!
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Old 11-02-2009, 01:48 PM   #80
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Houston…we have paint!

Well for the start it’s primer to be precise :-) I gave the engine a good layer of 2K-body filler and sanded it where necessary. Then, after sanding the primer off the suspension mounting points, I added photoetched “Jordan” logos left and right on the gear box ( where I had sanded off the molded in ones earlier ) and the part on top.





The same goes for the cam covers. I sanded off the molded in Ford logos, cleaned the parts where necessary and drilled a couple of holes where wires and other detail bits will go later. Then I added etched Ford logos. These and the Jordan ones for the gear box were bitches to make. I pushed the limit a bit in terms of material thickness for the scripts and produced some waste parts until I had a set of usable ones, but I finally got there :-)





So now the parts were ready for some paint. The kit instructions call for the gear box to be painted gun metal grey, but the paints I had looked a bit bright compared to the original so I made my own darker mix from enamel semi gloss black and aluminium and sprayed a good layer with high pressure and from a bit of a distance to get a rougher “cast” look. That worked o.k. but the paint took an age to dry…
After that I masked off the gear box and sprayed the engine block Alclad Aluminium. The cam covers were painted ZERO Jet Black. That done I once more carefully sanded off the paint from the elevated areas of the etched parts, dry brushed the gear box slightly ( I might add some more later…) and glued the came covers in place.







The next step was to glue the turned aluminium rings for mounting the bell cranks and another ring where the external starter is connected on the real car.







The gear box and the final gear cover in particular were then decorated as per the original with etched bolt heads.







Next step I added the little oil tank on top of the gear box. It’s the kit part with a new ( thinner ) oil line and an additional cap.







Finally I mounted the first parts of the drive shafts, now painted ZERO gloss black and Alclad Magnesium and the throttle slides that I painted Jet Black again.










So this is where I am right now. Painting all those parts is really time consuming and slowing progress down but so far at least it worked as planned :-)
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Old 11-02-2009, 02:38 PM   #81
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This is one sick built
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Old 11-02-2009, 04:29 PM   #82
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That engine and gearbox assembly is breathtaking!
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Old 11-02-2009, 05:36 PM   #83
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that engine and gearbox assembly is breathtaking!
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Double dido!! Nice finish!
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Old 11-03-2009, 08:35 AM   #85
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Fantastic work on a fantastic topic.
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Old 11-06-2009, 12:13 PM   #86
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Quality JayKay just pure quality!!!
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Old 11-14-2009, 04:44 PM   #87
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Re: Jordan 191

Some more progress!

After the steps on the engine I showed you last time I had to carry on and do the dampers:-)
The individual parts and the bell cranks were painted Alclad Aluminium and enamel orange/red and blue and then carefully assembled. Here you see one of the rear dampers ( not fully pushed together as I noticed too late :-)






I then put them in their places on top of the gear box:















There are of course more parts to follow but I finally had to turn my attention to something else… the cowling. Without that done, progress was stuck in several areas so I couldn’t avoid it any longer :-)
As I mentioned in an earlier update ( I think..:-) I carved out the inside of the cowling to achieve a more realistic material thickness ( now between 0,5 and 0,7mm ) especially in the visible areas. Here’s a shot of the inside that may give an idea of all the work involved :-)







I also cut off the kit part’s locator pins that hold the cowling in place. That is very unrealistic and I wanted something better :-) My original plan was to tweak the cowling well enough so it would just nicely slide on and stay in its place. This tweaking involved a hot air gun which is a dangerous tool around styrene…. I messed up the original cowling and had to order a replacement and redo all the carving :-(
So this time I was extra careful with the heat, not even wearing cotton gloves to rather burn my fingers than melt the cowling again… However after half a Saturday carefully heating and bending I finally had to admit to myself that this wasn’t gonna work. The Jordan 191 cowling has a too complicated shape ( especially the pointy bits at the front ) to do that. ( I have a semi finished McLaren MP4/8 where it worked fine…) .
To my defence I have to say the real F1 cowlings are usually forced in place with DZUS and screws so I was trying to better them :-)
Anyway, I had to turn to plan B and also install pins to hold the cowling in place. Just more realistic ones than Tamiya :-) Just drilling thin holes in the plastic parts and sticking a metal pin in wouldn’t last too long. The pin would break out and ruin the plastic and paint.
So I turned some 0,3mm pins with 1mm diameter “heads” to have more surface to glue and superglued these in 4 places at the front and rear of the cowling flush with the surface.







They fit into holes I drilled in the metal flange I added to the lower bodywork panels earlier. The holes are in the same places as on the real car. I just don’t use all of them. Next is a picture of the rear where you can see them from both sides.







The tricky part will be to keep them clean and functional throughout the painting process and later not make scratches with them on the finished model when installing the cowling :-)

In the next picture the cowling sits in its place. I now have tight shutlines like I wanted and keep my fingers crossed this will stay.
As you can see I had to rework some areas with polyester putty and styrene to match the surfaces again. That was a result of my modifications and not a mistake of the kit parts.







To work on all this I sketch glued the lower bodywork parts and the cockpit tub to the floor with drops of superglue. I then realized that it would be near impossible to get the same fit again after breaking this assembly up and painting the parts individually. So I decided to permanently glue the lower bodywork panels. They were integral parts of the floor on the real car as well. This will make painting and decaling more complicated but I will not have a split line between the green areas and the floor in the end which is more realistic.



Another area I worked on was the roll hoop. You may remember that I cut it off the chassis early on. I detailed it with some etched bits and made it a bit higher. This was possible because my cowling is now thinner and I leave no gap in between the hoop and the cowling like Tamiya.







In the picture you also see an etched part for the top of the fuel cell and a new fuel filler I made form an etched base and a turned and milled aluminium piece.

Next is the roll hoop in its place.







The whole exercise of making it higher and carving out the cowling in the air intake area was done for a reason. On the kit cowling there’s a lip missing around the air intake that covers the roll hoop when seen from the front. Tamiya couldn’t do it because that part would have had an undercut and not come out of the mould anymore. This is how mine looks now:







That’s it for now. The parts will now get some primer and then another round of sanding I guess :-)
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This build is setting the bar way to high in 1/20th F1 modeling.
The engine-gearbox assembly is stupendous and those dampers are awesome!
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I need beers to view this thread so I don't get depressed by how BLOODY AWESOME this work is.
Fantastic work. I love scratchbuilding.


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Old 11-14-2009, 11:54 PM   #90
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This isn't modelling from another planet, it's modelling from another galaxy!

Inspiring and educational to follow your thinking processes and techniques. Thank you so much for sharing in such detail
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