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Old 10-20-2004, 10:01 AM   #16
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thats fine. i think more or less, we the 300zx owners get tired of our cars being dissed because of reliability. i havent meant a 300zxTT owner yet that says that his car is shitty becasue it has had a few maitenance problems. most people that buy z's know that they are probably buying a car that someone has ran the shit out of. oh well. i understand what your saying about the mr2 being a sports car. it does have a true sports car layout but i dont feel that the fact that it is mid-engine makes the car better. just opinions clashing i suppose.
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Old 10-20-2004, 10:15 AM   #17
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Re: ventured over to "car comparisons" part of af

I thought the Z was more of a touring-hi-speed cruiser anyway? What a dumb-prick!
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Re: ventured over to "car comparisons" part of af

By the way, I never said anything about it's reliability. In fact, I defended it's reliability in that thread. All the other Nissans from that time period were very solidly built, so it must be abuse and lack of proper maintenance for a high-end car that causes the "reliability issues".
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Old 10-20-2004, 02:08 PM   #19
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yeah i know. i was talking about the other guys.
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Old 10-20-2004, 06:25 PM   #20
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Re: ventured over to "car comparisons" part of af

I've had nothing but good luck with my Zs.

Wanna know what erks me? People saying we're biased. That's simply bull shit. We aren't biased, we just like our cars...we aren't saying they "own everything" or they're "the greatest cars ever built by anyone, anywhere, ever" or anything. They were SOME of the greatest cars ever built, but not THE greatest. There have been many amazing and classic cars that will remain amazing and classic for any number of reasons...there is no "one best"...not even the Z. But anyone that says any ONE car, run of cars, brand of cars...whatever is best...is wrong. There is no ONE best of ANYTHING...make, model, year (yes...on occasion, there is one year that actually IS clearly better than the other years of that particular car, but even that's rare), region...whatever...you can say this about bands/music, too. There's too much emotion and oppinion involved for ONE best of either of these to be possible.

But...Motor Trend, Mar 1990, "Dollar for dollar, it's (the 300ZX is) the best damn sports car in the world." I don't care who you are or what kind of car you prefer, that really is impressive...
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Re: ventured over to "car comparisons" part of af

the z owns everything....
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Re: ventured over to "car comparisons" part of af

i don't know about you guys but i get alot of complements about my Z. when Z came out to the public they were to expensive and only older folks owned them. basically the Zs were in the wrong hands at the time. know that the Zs are more afortable to many of us and have fallen to the right hands( us ), you begain to see the real power of a Z!

the z is the best bang for your money and with about about a 1k or a little more your bagain to see its true potential.

screw everybody else! the Z in stock form can hang with many of today new sports cars. and properly tune? it will rip a new ass on anybody!
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very true JCCR!
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Re: ventured over to "car comparisons" part of af

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We aren't biased, we just like our cars...we aren't saying they "own everything" or they're "the greatest cars ever built by anyone, anywhere, ever" or anything.
You act like it when you mercilessly talk shit about domestics. I'll dig up old quotes if I have to, but just because you believe your car is better than everyone else's doesn't mean you can talk shit as if it were.
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Re: ventured over to "car comparisons" part of af

the same thing i have noticed with the z33 is that really only older people own them. you don't really see any young people owning them.

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opinions are expressed in these forums. im sure its not just us that sometimes talk shit about another car. go to any forum on here. people express their opinions and that is what these forums are for. for people to learn and express their feelings. if i feel it is a good car, personally i could care less where it came from.
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Re: ventured over to "car comparisons" part of af

I love the Z, but its NOT a sports car, its touring car, or as the Americans put it a "Muscle/Pony" car.
Even the Ferrari isnt a sports car. But to say this about the MR-2/S its not a good sports car either, as stated by the "5th Gear" it is a fun drive but, its has to many wizbang gizzmos, and is a bit uncomfortable. But it is a reliable car. They did say the best "sports car" on the market is the Lotus Elise and the clone by someother company that goes faster and has less in it.

But thats just my take on it.
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Re: ventured over to "car comparisons" part of af

5th Gear Has Some Of The Worst, Most Opinionated, Car Reviewers Out There. The Mr2 Is One Of The Greatest Affordable Mr Platforms. If They Said The Mr2 Has Too Many Gizmos But The Elise Is The Greatest Sports Car They Obviously Never Driven The Elise. The Elise Is Loaded With Features.... I Do Agree Pound For Pound The Elise Can't Be Beat But The Comparisons They Give Is So Biased Its Not Even Funny.

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Re: ventured over to "car comparisons" part of af

have you ever driven a elise? if not, than you can't say their opinions are biased because how do you know if their opinions are right or not if you have never driven it?

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Re: ventured over to "car comparisons" part of af

The Elise is more or less the textbook definition of a sports car. The Mazda Miata and Honda S2000 are also good examples. To be completely accurate, a sports car has to have been designed as and intended to be a roadster, but I don't really like that definition...I'd count the Fairlady Z and MR2 as sports cars for sure.
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