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Lets say it has a decently agressive cam (e.g. 228/228 112 LSA .570 .570) Lets give it LT headers. And why not Loudmouth exhaust. Common for most f-bodies as a mod. Lets give it a 12 bolt rearend for better reliability. Intake manifold change? Lets keep it stock and realistic. Slicks? Lets give it BFG DR's. Since it has a cam, it will also have most if not all of the minor bolt on's like an air lid, 160/180* stat, stall (if it's an auto) gears (why it needs a 12 bolt w/slicks) With all those mods, a well driven f-body will run low 12's.
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It got beat by a Maxima who's bet time has been 11.913. |
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I can show you video after video of low 13 and high 12 second runs by a countless number of LS1 f-bodies. But why bother? You are still convinced you are right no matter what I post. I have posted fact after fact, and you ignore them all. You just continue to spout BS. And I just keep correcting your BS.
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I can't explain why he ran a bad time like that with his modifications if he has what you suggest. Point is, I don't have to. You are proving nothing. LS1 f-bodies still run what they run regardless of whatever videos you show of them. Again, I can provide many videos of low 13 and a few high 12 second 1/4th mile runs as well as dyno graphs and plenty of evidence to support this.
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06-26-2003, 11:05 PM | #82 | |
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Tekone, it has been proven that the cobra is just as fast as the Z06. Go to svtperformance.com and look in the kill section. You will see that there are Z06s going down. They are both low 12 second cars.
But this is a v6 comparison. The 3.8 liter mustang will take down the 3.8 liter camaro! Your opinions aren't b.s., but but they are baised! |
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in the video you don't even see the nissan burnout... I gotta put up the
From experience, my 3.8L smokes 3.8L stangs. I'm sorry but it does. I have read countless articles and reviews comparing both v6 models. And the camaro has come on top with all of them. I have a buddy with a 00 auto stang and we ride each others cars. he was always impressed with mine compared to his, and was jealous of the power. For those of you who know me, my v6 hangs/beast stang gts. I ran a best of 14.49 at 94-96mph, I gotta get the timeslip out, it's too late to do so and the Mrs. is sleepin' Stock v6 can run 15s all day, look here http://media.firebirdv6.com/unsunghero.html I'm stock stangs run high 16s. As a last resort v6 mustang owners resort to weight. Well, the aerodynamics of the camaro make up for it's weight, the sleeky body is built more for speed than the boxy mustang sorry there, and man how sweet it would be if any late model f-body or corvette had a supercharger, or nitrous... woo wee. I gotta say that chevy has to be respected for actually putting thought into making a redesigned engine as opposed to slapping a supercharger on a existent engine. Oh well, to each his own. I don't think anyone here will argue that if ss or trans am matched a 03 cobra and it was supercharged, we'd see how close it wouldn't be. Also, '02 was the last year for camaros and birds, so all chevy has is the corvette, and Pontiac has the GTO coming back. 340hp I believe A response to the Maxima engines, there's no doubt they're really good high tech engines. But there are things that go along with something that is high tech. 1) cost of repairs . My buddy blew his exhaust manifold on his eclipse spyder. He's so bitchy about how much it's gonna cost. Mine's soooo much cheaper. 2) nobody here has ever denied that the 3.8 is an engine that uses older technology. I mean, it is an iron block. A pushrod v-6. But the thing about using old technology is that you know what to expect, and that old technology is coupled with what's new, to make a damn reliable engine. Plus performance parts for my car are chheaaap. I got my 99 v6 with 60k miles on it, every option possible, sport appearance package for 8k. haven't had a problem yet. 3) I'm sure your v6 is aluminum and the whole family of nissan v6s. You can't fix cracked aluminum Can't wait till GM makes an aluminum v6, and of course it'll be comparable. Technology is a weird thing, when one company has an edge, another has something better. Thus arguments spur until something else is created, it is a neverending cycle, but it is interesting |
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Second, why keep generalizing with the V6 Mustang beating a V6 Camaro. Your generalization is incorrect. For the 3rd time or so, I'll post this again: Auto to auto, the Camaro will win. The Camaro weighs ~150 lbs. more, but Chevy can build a decent auto. Ford cannot. Ford's auto is pretty bad, and takes away from the Mustang's 1/4th times considerably. Manual to manual, it is a drivers race. Again, I have raced both autos an manual mustangs. I have not lost to an auto 99+ yet. I have lost to a manual once and beat one. Others that have done the same races have about the same results.
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I don't race that often with my '01 stang auto so maybe you're right about the ford automatic transmission.
P.S. Tekone, you said that the manual mustang and manual camaro would be a driver's race, even with the 150 pound weight disadvantage. Using the 10hp=100lb. theory the cobra would only have a 200 pound weight disadvange against the Z06 since it has 30 more horsepower. Therefore the cobra versus the Z06 would be a driver's race ( according to you, of course). |
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It's still going to be a driver's race. Aerodynamics aren't really a big deal in a quarter mile. Also these cars are geared about the same. They both make an awesome amount of torque at low rpms. They are pretty similar. The only two big differences are the cobra's power edge and the Z06's weight edge.
P.S. I'm sorry about our arguments! PEACE!!!!! We're just two different people with different opinions. |
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for the v6 nissan guy, I think one of the best v6s ever produced was the Ford SHO, in 1990 a 3 liter engine pushed 220 hp. Now that's power!
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but ford dind't make that motor, yamaha did. and the 5 speed maxima during that time was still faster then the SHO
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