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Old 01-05-2004, 06:29 PM   #61
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Re: What annoys you at a street race or where you meet?

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Supra, viper, and vette guys that talk shit for hours but never race, and ricers who are just annoying.
i'd have to say that is a big irritation to me also
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Old 01-05-2004, 07:29 PM   #62
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Re: What annoys you at a street race or where you meet?

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Now lets not forget about this nitrious thing now. They stick nitrous on cars that shouldnt have it.
- Every motor loves nitrous

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Civics already weight no more than 1/2 a ton and they try and turn it into a race car.
Eh? Do you know being light is a GOOD thing when you want to be fast? And do you know how light 1/2 a ton is? I'm 110% sure you don't see many cars running around on the street anywhere even close to being that light.

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Not long before now your going to be seeing these light import cars flying and spinning all over the place
And do you know that a light car is easier to control than a heavy car?

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killing people.
And do you also know a light car is less likely to kill someone?

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Lets not forget about the heavy wings they stick on the back of their front wheel drive cars. That just lifts them out of control easier.
Don't know much about downforce do you?

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I mean they have these gay custom color interiors.
Yes, only imports do that
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Old 01-06-2004, 03:59 AM   #63
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Re: Re: What annoys you at a street race or where you meet?

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- Every motor loves nitrous



Eh? Do you know being light is a GOOD thing when you want to be fast? And do you know how light 1/2 a ton is? I'm 110% sure you don't see many cars running around on the street anywhere even close to being that light.



And do you know that a light car is easier to control than a heavy car?



And do you also know a light car is less likely to kill someone?



Don't know much about downforce do you?



Yes, only imports do that


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Old 01-06-2004, 07:11 AM   #64
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well i agree with you ldelaysionl except on one thing...the wing


normally they are designed to create downforce....but without a wind tunnel there is no way to know that you did not mess up worse the aerodinamics of the car and even create lift

aerodinamics should not be tampered with using eye measuring....there is a reason those wind tunnels cost tens of millions of dollars and engineers spend hunderts or even thousands of hours in them to fine tune the aerodinamics


i think there are some body kits out there that are wind tunnel tested....like certain mugen ones i believe, but those cost an arm and a leg
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Old 01-06-2004, 07:30 AM   #65
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Re: What annoys you at a street race or where you meet?

not only that, but putting downforce on the rear of a FWD car will not really help for drag racing's sake.
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Re: Re: What annoys you at a street race or where you meet?

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And do you know how light 1/2 a ton is? I'm 110% sure you don't see many cars running around on the street anywhere even close to being that light.
Its called exagerating (I know I didnt spell that right)

Also about the custom interior thing, your right, not only import people do that but domestic people that do not understand what good style is.
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Re: Re: Re: What annoys you at a street race or where you meet?

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Its called exagerating (I know I didnt spell that right)

Also about the custom interior thing, your right, not only import people do that but domestic people that do not understand what good style is.
Then, you scroll down, and his sig just makes it comedy gold.
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Old 01-06-2004, 05:55 PM   #68
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Re: Re: What annoys you at a street race or where you meet?

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- Every motor loves nitrous



Eh? Do you know being light is a GOOD thing when you want to be fast? And do you know how light 1/2 a ton is? I'm 110% sure you don't see many cars running around on the street anywhere even close to being that light.



And do you know that a light car is easier to control than a heavy car?



And do you also know a light car is less likely to kill someone?



Don't know much about downforce do you?



Yes, only imports do that
well you have to be going extreamly fast for a wing to give you any down force, not saying wings are stupid to have but unless you have moded your cars engine its going to have a hard time going fast enough for there to be down force.(ya im kinka redundant)
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Re: What annoys you at a street race or where you meet?

why put force on the back of a FWD car?
for traction, you want downforce over the drive wheels.
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Re: Re: What annoys you at a street race or where you meet?

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why put force on the back of a FWD car?
for traction, you want downforce over the drive wheels.
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By crickey I think you've made a breakthrough! Why don't you go tell these guys that their wings are useless cuz their cars are FWD. I mean, what do they know about racing, right? Why, I see 3 FWD cars in this pictures alone with wings! Fools!



Sarcasm if you couldn't tell. Which end you need downforce on has little to do with where your drive wheels are located. UNLESS you're talking about ONLY drag racing, but you weren't, right? Because you're MustangRoadRacer. Anyways, even in the case of straight line racing, MOST street cars don't need downforce on the back even if they're RWD, simply because MOST street cars don't have a major problem with traction at any speeds where a wing could produce a significant amount of downforce without acting as a parachute at high speeds.



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Then, you scroll down, and his sig just makes it comedy gold.
I assume you're talking about me? Sorry, but I'm stupid so you're gonna have to explain what's so funny.
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Old 01-06-2004, 11:27 PM   #71
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Re: What annoys you at a street race or where you meet?

he was talking about the guy with the trans am.
and I WAS talking about drag racing, which is what the topic was.
don't start an argument when none exists.
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Re: Re: What annoys you at a street race or where you meet?

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he was talking about the guy with the trans am.
and I WAS talking about drag racing, which is what the topic was.
don't start an argument when none exists.
don't think he was trying to argue, simply prove that FWD cars CAN use a wing (since most ppl laugh and believe they are useless on anything but rwd, and the arguements were starting to sound like this.)

i understand that YOU never said anything about road racing, BUT it was mentioned...hence his rebuttle.

ah forget it...i drive a fwd car w/ a functional wing...wut do i know....
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I like to play devils advocate. Anti-FWD-wing sentiments were expressed, so I countered.

Okay, how bout this. Wings can be important on a FWD car in a straight line if the car produces lift and gets unstable at high speeds, a wing can help stick the back end down.
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Old 01-07-2004, 02:01 AM   #74
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wings on road cars were originaly added for better stability at highway speeds. when you have more downforce in the rear, you want to balance it out by putting more downforce to the front, with a front lip spoiler. you dont need to go really fast to make it work, highway speeds are enough to make a difference in handling. these wings arent bs, they actually help, and of course not all aftermarket wings do what they were intended for.
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Re: What annoys you at a street race or where you meet?

never heard of a car generating lift at the rear.
sorry.
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