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Old 12-06-2006, 04:54 PM   #16
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Re: Transmission Fluid down 1 qt and smells burnt. Kicks hard into drive.

I'd like to throw my in!! As far as the additives I'm not a big believer in them but in a case like this it might help.

As far as the condition of the trans, it sounds like you might be in for some $$$$$ repairs. I had a 95 Regal with a 4T60E trans and here is what happend to mine. On a routine oil change I had spilled some on the manifold. I started it and from under the hood was reving the engine up a bit and all of the sudden I heard a snap and the car lunged forward toward me. Not only did it scare the crap out of me it also turned on the light that something was wrong in the trans. Try this with yours and see what happens, either neutral or park AND DON'T STAND IN FRONT OF THE CAR WHEN YOU DO THIS!!!!

If it makes a noise you have major issues, most likely a bad one way clutch, hub, pump support, etc etc etc.........hard part failure. My Regal trashed about $500 bucks in hard parts, my cost, yet all of the clutches and bands were fine.

As far as it going into neutral, this was explained to me as another symptom of the one way clutch going south then other parts grenading after. Although you don't have any metal yet it might not be soon to follow. The guy that gave me all my info, and hook up for cheap parts, has been building transmissions for over 20 years. Super guy and he builds dozens of these trannys a year.

Let us know what you find!!!

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Old 12-06-2006, 08:37 PM   #17
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You say no gray sludge? That's unusual as automatics normally produce this over time, especially this particular one (I'm on my second trans in this car and last time I changed the filter I found not only sludge but a half circle of plastic like substance from a clutch pack. Looks like I'll be on number three in a few months but it sill shown no symptoms of failure.) Most likely, the PO had this thing flushed recently, if so it'll be dead soon.
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Old 12-06-2006, 09:45 PM   #18
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Hello,
I am very greatful to you for all of your help, and I'll tell you, kid or not, you are extremely intelligent. You know more than most adults I have met. You are a wonderful person for taking time to help me, and I was hoping that I was not becoming a pain, because for a while I was not hearing from anyone on the post. I just have one more question. When I changed the fluid, I could not get the old O-Ring out of the tranny. So I left it in there and just put the new filter in, and threw away the new O-Ring. I did not mention this before becauseI did not find out that it was important to change this, until last night. Do you think I hurt anything by leaving the old O-Ring in there? I promise that this will be my last question about this, and I thank you in advance. Also thank you to all who have taken time to post here for me.
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Old 12-07-2006, 10:17 AM   #19
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When I changed the fluid, I could not get the old O-Ring out of the tranny. So I left it in there and just put the new filter in, and threw away the new O-Ring. I did not mention this before becauseI did not find out that it was important to change this, until last night. Do you think I hurt anything by leaving the old O-Ring in there? I promise that this will be my last question about this, and I thank you in advance.
Ask away whenever, that's what forums are for.

(I'll assume you're talking about the little pipe like seal for the trans filter)
I've done this too, it's difficult to remove it without causing a bit of damage to the soft aluminum it's stuck into. Best way I've found is using a chisel to deform the little pipe from the flared edge until I can get a hold of it with some large pliers and twist till it pops out.
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Old 12-07-2006, 11:40 AM   #20
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You say no gray sludge? That's unusual as automatics normally produce this over time, especially this particular one (I'm on my second trans in this car and last time I changed the filter I found not only sludge but a half circle of plastic like substance from a clutch pack. Looks like I'll be on number three in a few months but it sill shown no symptoms of failure.) Most likely, the PO had this thing flushed recently, if so it'll be dead soon.
I am amazed you mentioned this cause I found the same exact thing! It was like a pinkish, or tan color I can't remember, but it was around 4 inches in diameter, and I assumed it was just the plastic thing left in trannies to tell if the fluid and filter had ever been changed. Is this something that can be done by me, or do I need a tranny overhaul, or new tranny? I am anxiously awaiting your response because I have another week to return this car to him for a refund if I find major defects. Could you also tell me maybe under normal driving conditions how long can this last in this condition? I am still changing gears perfectly, and the tranny shifts into gears beautifully when it is warmed up. I know it is hard to say, but you have had this problem, so I was hoping maybe you could give me just an idea.
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Old 12-07-2006, 11:48 AM   #21
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Ask away whenever, that's what forums are for.

(I'll assume you're talking about the little pipe like seal for the trans filter)
I've done this too, it's difficult to remove it without causing a bit of damage to the soft aluminum it's stuck into. Best way I've found is using a chisel to deform the little pipe from the flared edge until I can get a hold of it with some large pliers and twist till it pops out.
Thank you for the update. At least this makes me feel a little better about that part of the problem anyway. I don' know if you read the other replies yet, but it looks like I may need to get this car back to the guy. He really tried to make me beleive that he did not know why it was acting the way it is, but I know he must have had this checked out by a tranny specialist at some point. I truly hate people that dump off they're major repairs on other people in a dishonest way like this. He knew that I am a father of 5 small children, and I am on disability. He really is a shameful person.
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Old 12-21-2006, 12:22 PM   #22
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A quick Update,
I looked up what a clutch pack looks like, and what fell from the tranny was different looking than that. I took the car for a ride about 27 miles and it was all stop and go, and it happened again twice. When I came to a stop I had to race the engine for the torque converter to grab and go. Then the next day I took it for a ride all at 45 - 55 MPH with no stopping, and about 40 miles, until I got there and turned around. The tranny did not do it at all. It performed beautifully. I added half quart of fliud btw, which put it to all the way full line on the dip stick. This was for the second trip. After the second trip was done and nothing happened, I drove around town for a while with srop and go, and it still did not do it. I was wondering if it makes sense that the old fluid mixed with the new fluid has made the viscosity change to the point of not having enough pressure biult up to stay in gear at a stop. Cause with stop and go the tranny would heat up more than it would with staying at 45-55. Does this make sense to anyone?

For those who don't know,
Tranny gets stuck between 1st and neutral when I come to a stop.
Only does it after tranny is warmed up.
Only does it when car is operated in slower speeds for a while.
Car sat for 1 year through pretty cold winter.
Car never had a tranny fluid/filter change until I did it at 115,000 mi.
Car has a tow hitch on it, non stock.
ABS warning light is always on.
Cruise does not work.
Third high brake light does not work.
Tried changing the bulb
Tried changing the brake switch.
Car now has 115,280 mi.
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Old 12-30-2006, 07:20 PM   #23
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Re: Transmission Fluid down 1 qt and smells burnt. Kicks hard into drive.

just out of curosity, did you give the car back?

i live in northern mass and they will fail the car for any non functioning lights, if they notice them. if your interested i might be able to help you out with that.

hows the tranny doing? (if you still have it)
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