Automotive Forums .com - the leading automotive community online! Automotive Forums .com - the leading automotive community online!
Automotive Forums .com - the leading automotive community online! 
-
Latest | 0 Rplys
Go Back   Automotive Forums .com Car Chat > Engineering/Technical
Register FAQ Community Arcade Calendar
Engineering/Technical Ask technical questions about cars. Do you know how a car engine works?
Reply Show Printable Version Show Printable Version | Email this Page Email this Page | Subscription Subscribe to this Thread
 
Thread Tools
Old 05-24-2009, 12:23 AM   #1
Chad82
AF Regular
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Withheld, Washington
Posts: 356
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Send a message via AIM to Chad82
Shortie vs. full length headers

Is there an appreciable difference in power between shortie and full length headers? Also for the shorties, is there any reason why the f-body ones wouldn't fit on an a-body? The ones marked as f-body are 3.00" and the a-body are 2.50".
Chad82 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-24-2009, 05:26 PM   #2
MagicRat
Nothing scares me anymore
 
MagicRat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: City of Light
Posts: 10,702
Thanks: 12
Thanked 82 Times in 77 Posts
Re: Shortie vs. full length headers

It depends on the rest of the combination that you are using.

Generally, relatively longer and narrower header tubes are better at increasing low and mid-range power. Shorter, fatter tubes are better at high revs - and then, only if the rest of the combination (heads, intake etc) are intended for max torque at high revs.

So, if your engine is stock or nearly stock, full length, smaller tube headers are the way to go.

FWIW, many 'shorty' headers do not produce any header-type exhaust scavenging effect. All they really are is just better-flowing exhaust manifolds.
MagicRat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-24-2009, 07:33 PM   #3
wrenchboss26
AF Regular
 
wrenchboss26's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: asheville, North Carolina
Posts: 142
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Re: Shortie vs. full length headers

Quote:
Originally Posted by MagicRat View Post
FWIW, many 'shorty' headers do not produce any header-type exhaust scavenging effect. All they really are is just better-flowing exhaust manifolds.
exactly, the best headers are ''tuned" headers. these are usually full length. as the gasses exit the tubes they scavenge the other tubes, and the gasses don't collide in the collector like in many shorties.
wrenchboss26 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-26-2009, 09:00 AM   #4
MrPbody
AF -Advisor
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Chesterfield, Virginia
Posts: 2,549
Thanks: 0
Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts
Re: Shortie vs. full length headers

IMO, "shorties" are for A) ease of installation and B) "bragging rights" that one indeed HAS headers.

In no way, will shorties make the power a good set of full-length headers make.

Jim
MrPbody is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-11-2010, 02:05 AM   #5
sub006
AF Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Palos Verdes Estates, California
Posts: 621
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Re: Shortie vs. full length headers

If your car is newer than 1973 and you live in California, only shorties will pass smog inspection. This also means 99% of those cars will also have to run single exhaust, though there are some pretty good aftermarket one-pipe systems available, like Edelbrock's.

Last edited by sub006; 05-20-2010 at 02:41 AM.
sub006 is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Reply

POST REPLY TO THIS THREAD

Go Back   Automotive Forums .com Car Chat > Engineering/Technical


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:53 PM.

Community Participation Guidelines | How to use your User Control Panel

Powered by: vBulletin | Copyright Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
 
 
no new posts