What’s wrong with Ford and the new Mustang?

[01L2Cobra]

Who cares about the new V6 when they could use the new 3.2 litre inline six? The standard 3.2L I6 engine is expected to produce 240bhp with a turbo-charged version approaching 300bhp.

[zx2srdotnet]

Ford has fallen way behind ther is not any car out that is not able to be met, or beat by atleast 2 other cars.

Focus ST: SRT-4, Cobalt SS, new 06 Si
Taurus/Fusion: Intrepid, Maxima, Accord
Mustang: Magnum/Charger SRT8 and R/T, GTO, C6

the Magnum also has AWD option, the C6 is a 6spd, and the GTO/ Charger are more able to side as a family car/

[01L2Cobra]

Originally Posted by zx2srdotnet

and MANY places have laughed at people that are asking to buy a spot on the list for MSRP, so they will be in the range of 50-56k when they come out depending on the MSRP

Yep many people on the list are now being told by dealers that they will be looking at $10K over list due to dealer allocation.

[zx2srdotnet]

hence why ther is a lot of people on SVTperformance.com that have pulled there names from the list.

[zx2srdotnet]

*post that was above this disapeared*

[TheStang00]

Originally Posted by zx2srdotnet

that last link doest work....

"gt500= 465 not 500. about 495 ft-lbs of tq. ur trying to down this car and you dont even know that?"

thats even more pathetic when a SC 4.6 will make over 480whp


"the 03/04 could run high 12s and the new gt500 is definatly faster than that car. in every aspect."

the 03/04 was actually more like 425HP so assuming Ford doesnt under rate the 06+ as much as that then we are still looking at a mid/high 12sec car. Just this time it dont handle near as good.



EDIT: WTF does a 3.5 have to do with teh GT500? If anythign the 3.5 SHOULD have come out like 5yrs ago now its just seen as Ford finaly catching up with everyone else.

dude... ARE YOU RETARDED?

cobra even posted stuff on this, they made it have less hp ON PURPOSE. they dont want it to be close the the ford gt in power... ITS INTENTIONAL, they got a big ass pulley on it. this just means it has tremendous potential. and it is much faster than the 03. more power, solid axle. its def faster, not only that but TESTS ACTUALLY PROVE IT HANDLES BETTER THAN THE 03!!

just like chevy made the leaf springs work well, ford worked with the solid axle and did some pretty impressive work.

[zx2srdotnet]

Originally Posted by TheStang00

dude... ARE YOU RETARDED?

cobra even posted stuff on this, they made it have less hp ON PURPOSE. they dont want it to be close the the ford gt in power... ITS INTENTIONAL, they got a big ass pulley on it. and it is much faster than the 03. more power, solid axle. its def faster, not only that but TESTS ACTUALLY PROVE IT HANDLES BETTER THAN THE 03!!

just like chevy made the leaf springs work well, ford worked with the solid axle and did some pretty impressive work.

no really? i thougth it was weaker UN-intentionaly . Way to state the fucking obious.

It's not going to be "much faster", much faster would make it mid 11's the GT weighs 400lbs less, and has about 85HP more and more TQ and Motor Trend could only get 11.7 out of it, so its easy to say a GT500 will only be about a 12.4-5.

I dont care WTF ford does, no one that actually like handleing will want to but a car w/ a solid rear it's just another example of Ford beating a dead horse. Hell I can put slicks and a 21m sway bar and get a .98g skidpad on my Escort. Thats almost on par w/ a NSX.

Unless the 2 cars are tested same day, and same tires, on same track/driver and all exit/enterance speeds are posted you will never get a fair comparison.

[TheStang00]

I have nothing left to say to you...

[zx2srdotnet]

Originally Posted by TheStang00

I have nothing left to say to you...

Good.

465hp(even 500) SC 5.4 = under powered
3800lbs = WAY over heavy
reworked solid rear = still a solid rear
50k+ = EXTREMELY over priced


There is NO argument here these are proven facts. Any autoX person would prefer an IRS because it has MUCH more potential then a solid rear.

50K can get you better PROVEN car for less(C6)

3800lbs is a PIG of a car

a SC on a GT can make 480+WHP that more then 500 crank and would cost a shit load less then the GT500

Ford is offering NOTHING for a LOT of money

[01L2Cobra]

Originally Posted by zx2srdotnet

I dont care WTF ford does, no one that actually like handleing will want to but a car w/ a solid rear it's just another example of Ford beating a dead horse.

That’s true. HTT the new head of SVT still thinks its the 70's and we are all stuck in the same f*ed up time warp as him with mullets asking ourselves what’s a corner? But in typical fashion thanks to Fords over sights Maximum Motorsports has stepped up to the plate again.
http://www.autoblog.com/entry/1234000150066311/

[zx2srdotnet]

damn looks sweet

[Jaguar D-Type]

Originally Posted by zx2srdotnet

Ford has fallen way behind ther is not any car out that is not able to be met, or beat by atleast 2 other cars.

Focus ST: SRT-4, Cobalt SS, new 06 Si
Taurus/Fusion: Intrepid, Maxima, Accord
Mustang: Magnum/Charger SRT8 and R/T, GTO, C6

the Magnum also has AWD option, the C6 is a 6spd, and the GTO/ Charger are more able to side as a family car/

How does the pony-car Mustang compete with the sports car C6 and supercar-slaying Z06?

The Magnum is a 4,000+ lbs station wagon and the Charger also weighs 4,000+ lbs and has four doors. Both aren't available with manual transmissions.

How could a GTO be a family car? The new Mustang has a bigger trunk than the GTO. A new Mustang GT would be more affordable for a family than a GTO.

Also, the new Mustang has an aluminum hood.

There aren't many reviews of the new Fusion, but the December, 2005 issue of Motor Trend tests the new Fusion SEL vs. Honda Accord EX vs. Hyundai Sonata GLS vs. Toyota Camry LE

http://www.motortrend.com/toc/thismonth/

[zx2srdotnet]

If ford desides to go: gt, mach1 and cobra again I think it should be.

GT= 5spd, IRS(since the GT is typicly the car for people that just want a nice v8)

Mach1 = better N/A motor, 5spd(better 1/4 gearing), solid rear (mach1 is known as more of a straight line car)

Cobra = F/I, 6spd, IRS(maybe a solid option)

[Jaguar D-Type]

2005 Steeda Mustang Takes American Iron Championship

check the links

http://www.allfordmustangs.com/artma...pionship.shtml

http://americanironracing.com/home

[zx2srdotnet]

have that driver drive a stock 05 then a stock 01 cobra (closest to the 05 in power and has an IRS) and see what the numbers are.

Like i said before you cant compair different drivers and different modifications.