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06-30-2015, 09:57 AM | #1 | |
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1998 Explorer 4L OHV High RPM Surge
I thought I had it all solved but my intermittent High RPM surging has reared it's ugly head again.
My related threads are here: http://www.explorerforum.com/forums/...d.php?t=411696 http://www.explorerforum.com/forums/....php?p=3434910 OK. After getting gas, we started the engine up again, it surged up to 3000 RPM and stayed there. We shut it off and the same thing happened on the second start. The third start it was OK. We didn't touch the gas pedal at all during all this. On the way home we could feel some intermittent surging while on the highway. For safety sake it is parked at home until this gets settled. There is no engine light on. Might there be codes found with a scan even though there is no engine light on? I need to get aquainted again with all the sensors and solenoids etc.. Is there an idle speed control solenoid that could be malfunctioning; could the main computer be insane? Any ideers?
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06-30-2015, 05:07 PM | #2 | |
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Re: 1998 Explorer 4L OHV High RPM Surge
There could be pending diagnostic codes that are not "regular" enough to trigger the Check Engine Light. You should check for any pending codes as well as active codes.
Your 1998 will have an Idle Air Control (IAC) servo mounted at the throttle body. It could cause these issues, but generally if the idle is fluctuating, there's a good chance the IAC is working and partially enabling the fluctuation rather than allowing the engine to stall. It's more likely that you have a vacuum leak somewhere. Be sure to check all the obvious places plus the not so obvious places like the PCV elbow, the bellows/folds of the intake air tubing, the clamps for the intake air tubing, and the intake manifold gaskets. -Rod |
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Re: 1998 Explorer 4L OHV High RPM Surge
Thanks for getting back Rod.
I will wait for a good weather day to do a scan and check all the vacuum lines etc.. I always try to post my results too
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Re: 1998 Explorer 4L OHV High RPM Surge
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The IAC is new last fall. We tried 2 or 3 of them from the wreckers; they all made that same squawking noise. A couple days before this recent RPM problem happened the new IAC was squawking a bit while driving on the ragged mountain road we use. That's the first time it has made any noise since installing it last fall. I checked all the vacuum lines I could find (maybe there are a few hiding). Do you mean the big black pipe from the air filter? I have a K&N after market filter setup on there. Everything appears tight. I didn't check the PCV valve rubber; I will do that. I just replaced the upper and lower intake manifold gaskets last winter (anti freeze leak). I suppose that doesn't guarantee there isn't a small leak there. Could I use a vacuum gauge somehow to check for manifold leaks? I did find that the nut that holds the main battery wire on the back of the alternator hadn't been run on after I did the manifold gaskets. Do you think that connector flopping and sparking on it's terminal might have caused some funny stuff with the computer; that it was sending a bogus signal for the idle speed, or something like that? I drove the vehicle for four hours and of course it has not displayed that RPM problem again
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Re: 1998 Explorer 4L OHV High RPM Surge
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As for the loose cable on the alternator, that's certainly a possibility as well. -Rod |
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I suppose the MAF could cause an idle speed surge too? Regardless, it should be cleaned. I imagine that MAF has never been looked at. Does carb cleaner or brakeclean work? I am glad you think the loose cable is a possibility, seeing that is all that I actually physically found while looking for a vacuum leak. Thanks
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Re: 1998 Explorer 4L OHV High RPM Surge
Carb cleaner might be a bit aggressive for cleaning the MAF, but brake cleaner likely would be fine. I remember when it used to be called "Brake and Electronic Parts Cleaner."
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