There really is no point to this.

[-Josh-]

Originally Posted by PWMAN

LOL, the 3.0L sucks too. Try one of the turbo cars, like a GTC lebaron.
The thing with imports is NO torque, you can talk HP until you are blue in the face, just give me the torque output of the engine and I'll humiliate you. Like my daytona, rated at 146 HP, but 168 ft/lbs stock. Integra LS? yeah 142 HP, but a measly 130 ft/lbs. Plus that was with the ECU controlling boost, now that I have a MBC, I probably have 225 ft/lbs and about 190 HP. I could smoke an LS with bolt ons no problem when I was stock. But now, with less than $500 in mods, I'm taking on GSX's and I laugh at all the Honduhs. And I don't have a car payment, or high insurance. After I intercool it will be a lot faster because the potential is greater. Turbos are cool, but I'd rather go with good old american V8 torque(and sound).

Definately, that's why i can't wait until summer to drive my old mans 79' Z28.. 350 4 bolt main, 3.73 12 bolt posi ; with engine and chassis mods out the ass. 17K worth.

[mikegee]

Originally Posted by Z28Josh

I dont see to much of this? At least not where i'm from...They can't even beat most of the V6's. I'm driving my grandpas 94' Accord V-Tec, when i raced my cousin in his 3.0 LeBaron, he kicked my ass. I'm not impressed at all with the V-Tec..It's a cool concept, but not for performance.

i was in the car when a 5speed 91 accord with vtec, when it outran a 5.0 mustang also 5 speed and the driver of that car was older so he should im not saying he is but should have been a better shirter.

[PWMAN]

Originally Posted by mikegee

i was in the car when a 5speed 91 accord with vtec, when it outran a 5.0 mustang also 5 speed and the driver of that car was older so he should im not saying he is but should have been a better shirter.

OK a 140 HP accord outran a 225 HP mustang. He wasn't trying.

[mikegee]

Originally Posted by PWMAN

OK a 140 HP accord outran a 225 HP mustang. He wasn't trying.

power to weight ratio and tratio my friend

[mikegee]

Originally Posted by PWMAN

OK a 140 HP accord outran a 225 HP mustang. He wasn't trying.

i mean traction

[mikegee]

Originally Posted by PWMAN

LOL, the 3.0L sucks too. Try one of the turbo cars, like a GTC lebaron.
The thing with imports is NO torque, you can talk HP until you are blue in the face, just give me the torque output of the engine and I'll humiliate you. Like my daytona, rated at 146 HP, but 168 ft/lbs stock. Integra LS? yeah 142 HP, but a measly 130 ft/lbs. Plus that was with the ECU controlling boost, now that I have a MBC, I probably have 225 ft/lbs and about 190 HP. I could smoke an LS with bolt ons no problem when I was stock. But now, with less than $500 in mods, I'm taking on GSX's and I laugh at all the Honduhs. And I don't have a car payment, or high insurance. After I intercool it will be a lot faster because the potential is greater. Turbos are cool, but I'd rather go with good old american V8 torque(and sound).

torque is worth less if you are unable to get it to the ground and thats the problem with american muscle.

[mikegee]

Originally Posted by PWMAN

OK a 140 HP accord outran a 225 HP mustang. He wasn't trying.

hold up a 5.0 with 225 hp lol

[broddie50]

The weight difference between the 5.0 and the accord wouldn't off set the major power advantage a 5.0 holds over the accord. The guy in the stang either couldn't drive his car, or wasn't even paying attention to you.

[mikegee]

Originally Posted by PWMAN

LOL, the 3.0L sucks too. Try one of the turbo cars, like a GTC lebaron.
The thing with imports is NO torque, you can talk HP until you are blue in the face, just give me the torque output of the engine and I'll humiliate you. Like my daytona, rated at 146 HP, but 168 ft/lbs stock. Integra LS? yeah 142 HP, but a measly 130 ft/lbs. Plus that was with the ECU controlling boost, now that I have a MBC, I probably have 225 ft/lbs and about 190 HP. I could smoke an LS with bolt ons no problem when I was stock. But now, with less than $500 in mods, I'm taking on GSX's and I laugh at all the Honduhs. And I don't have a car payment, or high insurance. After I intercool it will be a lot faster because the potential is greater. Turbos are cool, but I'd rather go with good old american V8 torque(and sound).

as for sound i love the scream and whirl of a turbo and of course the "guss" of a blow off valve is just music to my ears.

[mikegee]

Originally Posted by broddie50

The weight difference between the 5.0 and the accord wouldn't off set the major power advantage a 5.0 holds over the accord. The guy in the stang either couldn't drive his car, or wasn't even paying attention to you.

the finger at the end proves he was paying attention. again this proves the point i have made before any car can beat any other car at any given point.

[PWMAN]

Originally Posted by mikegee

power to weight ratio and tratio my friend

Specs from autotrader.com:
91 accord:
Wheelbase 107.1

Overall Length 184.8

Vehicle Height 52.8

Vehicle Width 67.9

Front Headroom N/R

Front Legroom N/R

Curb Weight 3,122

Gross Vehicle Weight N/R


92 mustang:
Manufacturer Code No Data

Wheelbase 100.5

Overall Length 179.6

Vehicle Height 52.1

Vehicle Width 68.3

Front Headroom N/R

Front Legroom N/R

Curb Weight 3,144

Gross Vehicle Weight N/R

Seating Capacity 4/N/R passengers



HMMMMMM-22 pounds different, that is one HUGE difference. Plus you had 2 people in your car---the accord weighed more at the time.

[broddie50]

What finger?!? I don't geeet iit?!? lol

[PWMAN]

Originally Posted by mikegee

i mean traction

He probably spun the tires on purpose, I've done that and lost a race before. Just for something to do. Plus I've flicked Honda's off just because they are a riced honda. Didnt even race them.
Plus I don't consider a 5-oh mustang a muscle car. Real muscle cars were heavier with big blocks and didn't have as much problem with traction.

[PWMAN]

Maybe he just has too many points on his license and didn't want to all out race. You know street racing is automatic license suspension.
And anyway how far did you take it? What did you beat him to like 40 then quit and say you one? LOL, thats a typical ricer. It's not a race unless you hit 100 MPH.

[mikegee]

Originally Posted by PWMAN

Specs from autotrader.com:
91 accord:
Wheelbase 107.1

Overall Length 184.8

Vehicle Height 52.8

Vehicle Width 67.9

Front Headroom N/R

Front Legroom N/R

Curb Weight 3,122

Gross Vehicle Weight N/R


92 mustang:
Manufacturer Code No Data

Wheelbase 100.5

Overall Length 179.6

Vehicle Height 52.1

Vehicle Width 68.3

Front Headroom N/R

Front Legroom N/R

Curb Weight 3,144

Gross Vehicle Weight N/R

Seating Capacity 4/N/R passengers



HMMMMMM-22 pounds different, that is one HUGE difference. Plus you had 2 people in your car---the accord weighed more at the time.

autotrader says that the 91 accord weighs 2857