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Old 05-09-2003, 11:29 PM   #1
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Question !!!!!! Serious Decision !!!!!!!

Sorry to bother ya'll with a question that has probably been posted, This being the Millionth time but I have a question? Which is best to go with
B18 or B16! I'm picking one up this weekend. I do know a little about the B18 but would like to know what ya'll think since I know alot of ya'll have done this swap. By the way I have a 88 Honda Civic CRX Si. I have been concentrating more on the B18, but I'm not sure just yet.
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Old 05-10-2003, 03:05 AM   #2
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go b18. but it really doesn't matter. you can tweak any engine to your likings. especially honda b-series engines
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Old 05-10-2003, 03:59 PM   #3
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Re: !!!!!! Serious Decision !!!!!!!

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Sorry to bother ya'll with a question that has probably been posted, This being the Millionth time but I have a question? Which is best to go with
B18 or B16! I'm picking one up this weekend. I do know a little about the B18 but would like to know what ya'll think since I know alot of ya'll have done this swap. By the way I have a 88 Honda Civic CRX Si. I have been concentrating more on the B18, but I'm not sure just yet.
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I would say go B16 for several reasons. I'm also assuming JDM specs.
First the B16 costs about 1200 for a complete swap, except mounts of course. The B18C1 costs about 3000 dollars for a complete swap minus the mounts. The B16 has 160 HP, the B18 has 180, are you willing to pay that much more for 20 HP?
Second, the B18 has a hydraulic tranny, so your either going to have to buy a cable trans, or do a hydraulic conversion - which is a pain in the ass.
Third, the B16 comes with a cable transmission.
And lastly, the B16 is just as easy to get parts for as the B18, so its not like your going to have to do without parts or pull your hair out trying to find parts.
The only advantage is that the B18 will have more torque - but you don't need it in such a light car. So my opinion is to go with the B16, hope this helped and good luck.
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or you can get the SiRII motor. It's almost the same price as the US spec b16a
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Old 05-10-2003, 06:16 PM   #5
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or you can get the SiRII motor. It's almost the same price as the US spec b16a
Yes but it has hydraulic clutch. SIR1 has cable, and only 10 less HP that the SIRII.
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i say get the b16, its less of a hassle.
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i say get the b16, its less of a hassle.
and more reliable
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and more reliable
HUH? At first you said go with the B18, did you change your mind?
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Old 05-11-2003, 12:17 PM   #9
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both are good. but the b18 utilizes the b16a head. you can stroke a b16a to 1.8 liter anyways. so it doesnt matter what engine you get.
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both are good. but the b18 utilizes the b16a head. you can stroke a b16a to 1.8 liter anyways. so it doesnt matter what engine you get.
The B18 does not utilize the b16 head. What the hell are you talking about? The b16 has overall a better flowing head than the b18.
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but the b18 head is slightly stronger.
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Old 05-11-2003, 02:58 PM   #12
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" Stronger "? What does that mean? If you mean springs and retainers you are still incorrect. Overall the b16 head is better than the b18.
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" Stronger "? What does that mean? If you mean springs and retainers you are still incorrect. Overall the b16 head is better than the b18.
That is correct
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" Stronger "? What does that mean? If you mean springs and retainers you are still incorrect. Overall the b16 head is better than the b18.
no. i would have said springs and retainers are stronger. i'm talking about the head alone.
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the head alone is in no way "stronger" in design or material, the b16 has a btter flowing head and stronger internals than the b18 does.
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