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Old 05-03-2004, 08:03 PM   #121
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Re: Y do people hate hondas so much....

I can respect your opinion, but my friend's s13 interior is pretty much the same as mine IMO. I didn't ever really notice if it is plastic or vinyl. My car's is mostly plastic, i mean, all the cars in tihs range have pretty much the same s*it. Your 240 pretty much has the same options I have... I have a driver's power seat and that's about it, no heated seats or wood grain or anything.
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Re: Y do people hate hondas so much....

Oh, One thing I can thing of is that making an S2K style v8... well, first I think it would require too much energy and stress to have all those parts, bigger parts, moving that fast. They also move w/ a lot more force (torque).
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^ oh wait yea s13 interiors aren't that nice, they're normal. I have the s14, that's when nissan tried to make it more of a luxury appearance.
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Re: Y do people hate hondas so much....

Either way man.. I have both ..

327 with a carter 650, 3/4 race cam and oversized heads in a '65 chev pickup. While it's fun to drive, it's not practical at all. That's why I bought a honda.
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^ what do you mean you have both? both what?
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Old 05-04-2004, 12:33 AM   #126
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Re: Y do people hate hondas so much....

Both a v8 torque monster (in the truck) and a 4 cyl. in the Prelude, I'm assuming.
Prelewd... I just hope you are not like the as*hole honda owners around here that aren't logical. It's as simple as a performance car isn't FWD, even honda knows this (S2K and NSX). Everyone has their taste, I've always like sports cars, and since I could never have a Vette, I got what Chevy intended as its alternative. But a Civic hatch w/ a B18 or an H22 is by NO MEANS a sports car... why can't they just get it.
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Both a v8 torque monster (in the truck) and a 4 cyl. in the Prelude, I'm assuming.
Prelewd... I just hope you are not like the as*hole honda owners around here that aren't logical. It's as simple as a performance car isn't FWD, even honda knows this (S2K and NSX). Everyone has their taste, I've always like sports cars, and since I could never have a Vette, I got what Chevy intended as its alternative. But a Civic hatch w/ a B18 or an H22 is by NO MEANS a sports car... why can't they just get it.
and i hope you are not one of those ignorant camaro owners around here that aren't logical.

FWD cars can be made to handle. they can be made to compete in autocross events, and larger sanctioned track racing events, both of which (last time i checked) are sports. many even compete against similarly tuned BMWs and win.

they might not be a true sports car, but the definition of which is relavant to how you were raised, and what you have driven in the past. personally, i can't afford an NSX, so i drive what honda intended as it's alternative: the prelude.

like i have said before, do not discount a car based merely on the fact that it's FWD.
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Re: Y do people hate hondas so much....

No, in fact, I can respect a Type R, it really is a honda race machine. But there re Honda owners out there w/ BASE model cars no less, slapping on intake and exhaust, maybe wires and plugs, and talking shit to me. Like I said, I don't talk shit to Viper or Vette owners, Y can't these guys do the same. Even a Prelude or a Type R has virtually no chance...
Ok, let me say this... If someone comes through with a really built up honda, he has my respect... this kid around here has a red hatch w/ two racing seats, and some kind of custom built LS-Vtec w/ spoon parts, his older bro owns the nearest Honda performance shop. I can't touch him, but I can admit that. But they rest of these guys. Then they think that by dropping in a Type R or an H22 they will beat me. And all the rest of the ricers who have slow cars back them up, "ooo, it's FAST". But then Y is it these guys are never up street racing w/ the 5.0s and such. It's such BS, you tell me?
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Re: Y do people hate hondas so much....

Oh, and they think that my car is a GIANT piece of metal and that they weigh next to nothing in their small lane-zipping imports... the most they could have on me is what, 800lb. They act like they have a ton.
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No, in fact, I can respect a Type R, it really is a honda race machine. But there re Honda owners out there w/ BASE model cars no less, slapping on intake and exhaust, maybe wires and plugs, and talking shit to me. Like I said, I don't talk shit to Viper or Vette owners, Y can't these guys do the same. Even a Prelude or a Type R has virtually no chance...
Ok, let me say this... If someone comes through with a really built up honda, he has my respect... this kid around here has a red hatch w/ two racing seats, and some kind of custom built LS-Vtec w/ spoon parts, his older bro owns the nearest Honda performance shop. I can't touch him, but I can admit that. But they rest of these guys. Then they think that by dropping in a Type R or an H22 they will beat me. And all the rest of the ricers who have slow cars back them up, "ooo, it's FAST". But then Y is it these guys are never up street racing w/ the 5.0s and such. It's such BS, you tell me?
I couldn't tell you because I'm not one of them.

And 800lbs is quite a bit of weight.
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Re: Y do people hate hondas so much....

But you see my point, it's those people that lead to threads like these... and 800lb. isn't so much when I have 3X's the Torque they have.
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Re: Y do people hate hondas so much....

I'm goin to have to agree with Joseph, american's out of the factory come with a lot more hp than any Civics, H22As, or Type Rs. And with a little bit more money, it will kill any h22a or b18c type r's, the honda engines will have to be modded quite a bit. and FWD aren't true sports cars, they do have some advantages that u stated prelewd, but that's not why they were made that way. They were made that way to be practical, economical, insurance saving.

But whatever floats your boat, if you like FWD preludes, fine.
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I'm goin to have to agree with Joseph, american's out of the factory come with a lot more hp than any Civics, H22As, or Type Rs. And with a little bit more money, it will kill any h22a or b18c type r's, the honda engines will have to be modded quite a bit. and FWD aren't true sports cars, they do have some advantages that u stated prelewd, but that's not why they were made that way. They were made that way to be practical, economical, insurance saving.

But whatever floats your boat, if you like FWD preludes, fine.
Personally, I'd rather have a RWD Z car, but it's something I can't really afford right now. I know american "muscle cars" come out of the factory with more hp and torque. That's what they were built for. If this was an America vs. Japan thread, I'd bring up Cavaliers, focus', and neons.

I don't feel like you guys understand what I'm saying, and as a result, are labeling me one of those idiots that puts plug wires on his car and expects a huge gain.

Drive a well built honda and you'll see what I mean. It doesn't even have to be the motor that's built.. just some minor suspension work. It's like everyday, I go go-karting, and I love the hell out of it.
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Re: Y do people hate hondas so much....

i don't see what everyones deal is with Hondas....well i kinda do

itz the same with those few other car owners that do a lil to their car and go out and try and race....the only difference is that hondas a re cheaper and easier to come by and that there is a huge aftermarket...

but a lot of honda owners get on my newvers like a few other car owners who buy an exhaust and som lights and think they have a hooked up ride...stupid in my opnion...when i had my civic i had my car lowered, 2-1/4" exhaust with a turbo muffler and upper and lower braces....u may say that's not much (wich is isn't in a straight line) but i used mu honda where it benefited most....in the corners....it handled like a champ...

but most people forget that yes hondas aren't sports cars...they're like sports "compact" cars and i commend those that hook up their cars and choose function over form...yes it takes money to hook them up but any project you enjoy...u pay....and that's with any type of car....

but the whole thing with people hating on hondas and their owners is completely retarded...itz a car...and the car reflects the owner...if u wanna hate on anything....hate on the owners taste and not my grandma b/c she drives a civic
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Re: Y do people hate hondas so much....

I don't hate it that much, it's the dellusional assholes that I hate. I can respect true enthusists, like the one I mentioned or Erick's racing 10 sec hondas all-motor. If I had mad money to play w/ I'd probably try one for my next car... y buy another muscle car, been there, done that, still love em though. The Type R is prety good for what it is, and built up will run w/ older v8s. I told you I just can't stand the ignorant owners and their dellusions.
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