Japan vs American muscle

[SR20DETpower]

you can't have everything hehe..... on a BMI video they have run a MINE's R34...... I think it had 700+hp..... anyhow the damn thing handled faster then shit...... put the power down well., you could just telll how much faster it was going though corners and straights compared to the other cars, was just sick lol.

[NSX-R-SSJ20K]

hell yea

Keiichi kept going DAAMNNNNNN

and they both said its too fast

The Mine's Skyline was a Track Racing Monster and it still had some parts in the engine bay left stock like the air box which they said its up to the customer

They have strict tuning policies so that they don't loose focus as a company.
They are freaking cool :sun:

[carrrnuttt]

Originally posted by DeViL
Don't worry about it I'm just messing with you.

Don't do it again:finger:!

Originally posted by DeViL

Ok what I want to know is what all in todays technology makes these cars so much faster then the older cars like a 65 GTO?

Nobody mentioned gearing.

Today's cars are just so incredibly so fine-tuned to their gearing.

[SR20DETpower]

gearing, trannies, tires, suspensions, brakes...... who here wnats a car with 4 wheel drum brakes =0!

Jap engines are deisnged better with more exact tolerances and less known faulty parts..... in general

[76_cobra]

Originally posted by SR20DETpower
Jap engines are deisnged better with more exact tolerances and less known faulty parts..... in general

You're right domestic car companies just slap engines together from old junkyard parts that's why they are so unreliable compared to japanese cars.

The reliability of a car cannot be based on what company it comes from it is based on the individual who drives it, if you push a car hard and don't take care of it and never check the tire pressure and the oil and are always racing around and revving high, then your car is not going to last very long it doesn't matter what company it was that made the car. My friend hates dodge because he says they are unreliable because every dodge he's had has broken down on him well I know for a fact that he is hard on cars he ran one of his cars for almost 2 weeks with no oil in it and the only reason he changed the oil was because he was given a coupon for a free oil change otherwise he wouldn't have known and he would probably have cracked his engione block.

[LjasonL]

And on that note, Chevy is starting a new ad campaign admitting it made shatty cars in the 80's and 90's. Their new campaign admits they were behind japanese companies in overall quality, but they've learned from their mistakes.

[76_cobra]

Oh yeah and svt5.0 was right about those parts not interchanging I own a mustang II and there is pretty much no aftemarket for them due to their lack of popularity in fact most of the parts on them are in compatible with pretty much every other mustang produced so any aftermarket mparts for classic stangs won't fit I know that for a fact. pretty much any part from 79-present doesn't interchange. I like and I dislike the mustang II becausae of the facts mentioned above nothing interchanges, however I like the styling.

[76_cobra]

Originally posted by ldelaysionl
And on that note, Chevy is starting a new ad campaign admitting it made shatty cars in the 80's and 90's. Their new campaign admits they were behind japanese companies in overall quality, but they've learned from their mistakes.

Where is that article I would like to read it maybe you could scan it so we could see it or you could give us a link. IMO it's up to you how your car runs if you treat it good it will treat you good.

[LjasonL]

http://www.freep.com/money/autonews/gm29_20030529.htm

[SR20DETpower]

ford is a company that allows the highest known percentage of defect parts into its new cars. I know this because my brother in law was an engineer there. When a car is made they ask for 1000's of parts for each car and move mass quanties, they get a cheaper price say for every 10000 parts maybe 100 are defective..... other companies might only except 80, 60, 50....... this is just for example I don't know the exact numbers.

[NSX-R-SSJ20K]

its funny that Ford lets such defects go through and yet the Own A company known for its obsessive tendency to check something and check it again ..... can you guess who it is?

[2strokebloke]

Originally posted by SR20DETpower
gearing, trannies, tires, suspensions, brakes...... who here wnats a car with 4 wheel drum brakes =0!

Jap engines are deisnged better with more exact tolerances and less known faulty parts..... in general

There's nothing wrong with four wheel drums - unless you plan on driving thirteen hours straight... down hill... and around sharp curves. Otherwise drums are just fine.

[Layla's Keeper]

Quite right. I can't name any of those early drag specials (like the Z11 package 409 Bel Airs, Max Wedge 426 Dodges and Plymouths, 427 Thunderbolts and Galaxies, 421SD Pontiac Catalinas, etc) that came with front discs.

And these were 13-11second cars off the showroom floor on DOT skinnies and with primitive suspension setups. They still were working with the idea that a high nose imporves traction, especially on 9inch slicks.

And don't say they were heavy, either. Those things were ballasted up to the Super Stock class minimum of about 3200lbs thanks to thin gauge steel roofs, aluminum front ends, magnesium Kmembers, acid dipping, and a ton of other "only cheating if you get caught" tricks.

[DeViL]

Chevy is starting a new ad campaign admitting it made shatty cars in the 80's and 90's.

They sure got some balls thats not the way to get people to buy your cars, regardless of a company saying its improved. Though they shouldn't really be so harsh the early 90's and late 80's cars weren't all that bad, junk compared to what everyone has now but still they weren't dirt slow. Now the early 80's, there lies the shitty stuff the big 3 made. Getting 350 V8s with only around 180 hp, yuck.

[2of9]

i agree with 76Cobra, it depends how u treat ur car. ANY car can b bad if u dont treat it rite. but the thing i still dont get is that: The SVT Cobra is like wut 45-50k dollers (dunno real price), and its quick, same with the Vette Z06. Those cars i get furious with becuase those are really fast cars under 60k dollars, and to get a GTR3? its like 90k dollars to get one!