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Old 12-14-2004, 06:26 PM   #46
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Re: Re: Moderating Issues

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I've just one thing to say about Ricochet being banned for calling something someone wanted to being gay.

It seems to me these days, calling something gay is not automatic connotation for something being "homosexual". As it were, it seems to be split into both someone being homosexual and something being synonymous with "stupid" or "bad". Most people use it these days without actually meaning "homosexual" but rather just negative notation for something.

Just my 2 cents, and I realize some people see it differently.
Please - we've all discussed this ricochet matter and we've all been trying to forget about it, no need to have people constantly be bringing it up.
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Old 12-14-2004, 06:29 PM   #47
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Re: Moderating Issues

The 'issue' with Ricochet is not that he called someone 'gay.' There was a lot more to it than that. I agree that it is time to stop talking about whether he deserved to be banned or not and what he did to get banned.
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Old 12-14-2004, 06:33 PM   #48
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So he spent time and effort trying to improve one of the places he likes to spend his time, how is that not appreciation. He was trying to better the forums. What exactly one have to do around here short of performing oral sex on a mod before they are appreciated.
If you are unable to post sensibly in this of all threads, you will not make a further contribution to it.

AF has hundreds if not thousands of truly appreciated members, and some are more knowledgeable than others. As Igor put it, RESPECT IS THE KEY. A knowledgeable, respectful member is more appreciated than a knowledgeable member with unpleasant habits.

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It seems to me these days, calling something gay is not automatic connotation for something being "homosexual". As it were, it seems to be split into both someone being homosexual and something being synonymous with "stupid" or "bad". Most people use it these days without actually meaning "homosexual" but rather just negative notation for something.
Dealt with on the first page of this thread.
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Old 12-14-2004, 07:04 PM   #49
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Re: Moderating Issues

I was just stating it how I see it. He said he did not appreciate a member even though that member had put alot of effort and knowledge into a forum.
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Old 12-14-2004, 07:54 PM   #50
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I was just stating it how I see it. He said he did not appreciate a member even though that member had put alot of effort and knowledge into a forum.
Please find where I said that. Again, read, really actually take time to disect my words and find out what I'm saying, instead of jumping to a conclusion. It causes trouble.
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Old 12-14-2004, 08:43 PM   #51
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I'd just like to say I agree with everything civicspoon said and stand behind this thread 100%.
Couldnt have said it better myself.
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Old 12-14-2004, 08:47 PM   #52
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Re: Moderating Issues

So, calling somebody gay is not a bad thing hey? Where do you draw the line then? Sexist/racist words are always offensive to somebody. Saying them in the wrong place/time/context could even get you killed. So learn the lesson now, nobody will respect you if you do not respect others.

In fact that may be one of the problems that the people who stated this thread are feeling i.e. they feel insulted by some of the moderators. At least one mod had apologised for that and others who may have not been as sympathetic should take heed. However, the rank and file should remember those same mods have just finished dealing with an abusive, stubborn, argumentative, self important and opinionated individual like Ricochet. So they may still be on a short fuse.
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Old 12-14-2004, 09:46 PM   #53
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hiya kids.

ya, i'm back. i don't really care if you want to hear me bitch about ricochet being banned or not, cuz that's what i'm about to do. hell, you can ban me too. i left this site almost a year ago anyways, because it's gone so downhill. i am one of the original PH members as well, so don't tell me I don't know what I'm talking about simply because I don't post here (anymore). in fact, don't reply to this post cuz i'm not coming back to check this thread to see what you think.

have you guys ever seen the honda/acura forum? it's like a damn paradox of redundancy. same threads by the same newbies all the time. "what color do i paint my car", "which intake", "how do i add hp", "what is vtec". and you wonder why ricochet acts like he does...

the fact is, this is the internet. people are gonna say whatever the hell they want and whatever the hell entertains them, whether it makes you happy or not. if you're gonna waste your time getting offended by some kid on a computer halfway across the country who doesn't even know your real name, you shouldn't be on the internet in the first place. and yeah i know, moderators have a tough job to do, wah wah wah. fact is, you accepted the position. and it's not like you HAVE to do it. there are plenty of other people out there who WANT to be moderators. but you are the one who was chosen to do it. so congratulations. i just wish some of you would do a better job at it...

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Old 12-14-2004, 09:54 PM   #54
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Re: Moderating Issues

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hiya kids.

have you guys ever seen the honda/acura forum? it's like a damn paradox of redundancy. same threads by the same newbies all the time. "what color do i paint my car", "which intake", "how do i add hp", "what is vtec". and you wonder why ricochet acts like he does...

the fact is, this is the internet. people are gonna say whatever the hell they want and whatever the hell entertains them, whether it makes you happy or not. if you're gonna waste your time getting offended by some kid on a computer halfway across the country who doesn't even know your real name, you shouldn't be on the internet in the first place.

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Old 12-14-2004, 11:10 PM   #55
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Re: Re: Moderating Issues

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I think you have missed the point of this thread almost intirely. It not just about the banning of that member. Everyone here acknowledges
that other events took place that lead to his banning. The one quote about PureHonda shows how bias you are in any situation, it appears that you are willing to judge a whole group of individuals on the actions of a few.

I think you have missed the point of my post and shown your predetermned bias. I was complimenting what the current AF Honda community now is(new AF members/ PH memebers who stayed). It's not made up of a bunch of people who like to go into Mustangs and Camaro Forums and say how much they suck and Hondas rule etc.., It is now mostly people who appreciate and respect all cars but prefer Hondas.

And your other Pure Honda poster in this thread has help to reassure my feelings on the majority of the Pure Honda community and what they brought to AF.
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Old 12-14-2004, 11:22 PM   #56
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Re: Moderating Issues

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hiya kids.

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Hmm... I wonder how Freud would diagnose that...

Dealing with newbies is nothing unique to the Honda forums, it's the same all over AF. Anyone who cracks the way Ricochet did will have to be sorted in similar fashion.

So all mods aren't perfect all the time, sorry but that is always going to be the case. Even in a small group of people there are bound to be disagreements and arguments about any issue. Now multiply that by the quarter of a million plus members on AF and there is an awful lot of potential for disagreement. Even more so when we can count on ex-members to come crawling out of the woodwork when they smell some blood.
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Old 12-15-2004, 08:05 AM   #57
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Re: Moderating Issues

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hiya kids.

ya, i'm back. i don't really care if you want to hear me bitch about ricochet being banned or not, cuz that's what i'm about to do. hell, you can ban me too. i left this site almost a year ago anyways, because it's gone so downhill. i am one of the original PH members as well, so don't tell me I don't know what I'm talking about simply because I don't post here (anymore). in fact, don't reply to this post cuz i'm not coming back to check this thread to see what you think.

have you guys ever seen the honda/acura forum? it's like a damn paradox of redundancy. same threads by the same newbies all the time. "what color do i paint my car", "which intake", "how do i add hp", "what is vtec". and you wonder why ricochet acts like he does...

the fact is, this is the internet. people are gonna say whatever the hell they want and whatever the hell entertains them, whether it makes you happy or not. if you're gonna waste your time getting offended by some kid on a computer halfway across the country who doesn't even know your real name, you shouldn't be on the internet in the first place. and yeah i know, moderators have a tough job to do, wah wah wah. fact is, you accepted the position. and it's not like you HAVE to do it. there are plenty of other people out there who WANT to be moderators. but you are the one who was chosen to do it. so congratulations. i just wish some of you would do a better job at it...

peace.

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Old 12-15-2004, 01:12 PM   #59
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Re: Moderating Issues

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hiya kids.

ya, i'm back. i don't really care if you want to hear me bitch about ricochet being banned or not, cuz that's what i'm about to do

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You know, I might have actually read what you posted, but this line here made me think "nah, not worth my time". This isn't a bitch about Ricochet thread, as already stated on the first page of this thread.

NOTE TO ANYONE ELSE POSTING IN THIS THREAD FROM THIS POINT ON: IF YOU MAKE YOUR POST TO SIMPLY BITCH ABOUT THE FACT RICOCHET WAS BANNED, YOUR POST WILL BE DELETED WITHOUT A SECOND THOUGHT. THIS WAS STARTED FOR A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT REASON THAN TO QUESTION OUR DECISION ON THE BANNING OF A MEMBER.

That is all.
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Bravo, that was awesome.
Can't even constrain yourselves from postwhoring in a serious topic such as this. Way to go showing respect for the member who originated this thread.
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