Holy God...Wes, please help us out here...this is rediculous. We're not biased...we just know the facts...Me, Delerious, Broke, K3, Stealth, Freak, Samhain...all of us that call this forum our "home" on AF...we aren't here cuz we owe the Z something or cuz we feel like we need to be here, we're here because we truely believe that these are some of the best sports cars that have ever been built...or as Motor Trend said in 1990, "Dollar for dollar, the best damn sports car ever built." So either show some respect, quit saying rediculously stupid shit, and quit being so stubborn or find another forum to disrupt.
The Z32 weighs more than 3200-3300 lbs...a bit over 3500 according to R&T in Feb of 94. It really is quite heavy but you'd never know it by driving it. The STI is a great car that I do think has a lot of potential...but it does NOT handle "way better" than a Z32, if any at all...and I've MORE than proven that...so shut up already.
And no, Z31s don't weigh 3800lbs...what's wrong with you, man? Where do you get this shit from? You just pull numbers out of your ass?
I too have NEVER heard of 240s coming with HICAS in the US. Prove it, beotch before I pull out the BS flag and own your ass again. Even if they did at some point, you obviously still know NOTHING about the HICAS system.
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It Has No Benefit In My Mind And Its More Erratic Than Just Sliding The Rear.
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It turns the rear wheels a max of ~3 degrees and it's all speed and turning angle dependant. All these stories of it running guys into the wall at drag strips and so on are just complete bullshit. They're just an excuse (a bad one at that) for shitty driving or a screw up. If you believe that shit, you're a moron.
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The Z32 is a nice sports car, even for todays standards. Just dont compare price on a car made over 10 years ago plus 'x' amount of moeny toward modifacations.
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What's wrong with that? I know what you're saying, but we aren't paying the retail price for the car when it was new now. It's not hard at all to find a Z32TT in good condition for 12-15K. If you give me 33K or whatever for a car and someone else 33K for an STI, he spent all his, why couldn't I spend all mine? That would leave me ~20K for mods.
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Everyone would like to think their "whip" is the best on the road.
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Which is all fine and dandy...it's when you get all bent out of shape and start making up arguments and stats that you get beyond the realm of reasonable. There's nothing at all wrong with having a calm, civil argument with someone...it's one way to learn. I've learned a lot about mustangs in this manner. But when you start saying such rediculous, unfounded, completely wrong things such as "the Z31 weighs 3800lbs"...come on...prove that. I've given references (more than one in most cases) for damn near every stat I've given, so quit being stubborn.