well the fact taht i was arguing is that you were giving me the impression that you think the type R can't run a 14.7-14.8 and the way sport compact car does they're test is that they don't use correction factor. where most major magazines do. so i guess its all cool now then. but usually people in sport compact car runs slower times, csue they run them in the desert. like how they were tryin soo hard to get project silvia to run 12's. they could not get them to run 12's at all, they're personal best was 13.05 and when they called motortrend to do a correction factor for them, ( cause dave colemans job was on the line. he had to run a 12 or he'll get fired, and he got desperate) so motortrend gave them the correction factor adn it turns out they ran a 12.4